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Old 02-21-2012, 01:17 PM
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Do you folks on the S.Shore and below catch any Winter Flounder or, is it all Fluke(Summer Flounder) ??

I see that NOAA has doubled the allowable catch of Winter Flounder in the Gulf of Maine but has not changed the recreational limits.

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Old 02-22-2012, 09:42 AM
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The winter flounder fishery has been dead for a long time. I think there is a closure in force. If not then certainly a very small bag limit. Nobody fishes for the "flatfish" any more. Its not anything like what Jason has in Boston where they catch monster winter flounder.

However, our summer flounder, or fluke fishing, which is a different species, is alive and well.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:27 AM
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I suspect we have winter flounder in south jersey, my father in law used to fish for them, but AFAIK no one else does down this way.

Now, central Joisey: Manasquan, Shark River, Shrewsbury and into Raritan Bay... probably have tons... but with a 2 fish limit, few go out for them.
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It's true..Going out for 2 flounder is not worth the gas, bait, chum, etc..
I did not go out last spring. By the way, I love flounder fishing..but it's pretty easy to get skunked these days. When I was a kid ..with a heavy boat pole and 60 lb. mono, 6 ou. sinker..dropping straight down off the local dock I used to manage one or two.
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I suspect we have winter flounder in south jersey, my father in law used to fish for them, but AFAIK no one else does down this way.
There evidently used to be a viable winter flounder fishery in Ludlam Bay. An old salt in that area told me once that it was common to go out, freeze your nuts off, and chum up a goodly catch of blackbacks. But nobody does it anymore. I don't know whether it's because the regs have made this kind of fishing not worth the time -- winter fishing always has been a meat fishery; there's not much sport in catch and release of these fish -- or whether it's because the population is down, and the fish's distribution has concentrated farther north, leaving few winter flounder left in the area.

I don't have a boat, but if I did, I'd probably be obligated to give it a try, to see if there are any of these fish around, as even lousy fishing is better than sitting in the house and counting the spoons.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:24 AM
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Years ago, back when there were winter flounder in Southen New England, our spring stripers were always full of them stacked in bass stomocks. It makes you wonder if good bass fishing, with large populations distroyed the flatties. Where Jason fishes in Boston Habah, striper fishing is off and the flounder have recovered big time. Of course that is an uncle-ism with a shaky attribution quotient. Whisky, Tango, Foxtrot !
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All right, ya drew (chummed?) me in!
The flounder fishing we have in Boston Harbor has been steadily improving for the past 13 years or so. Until about 5 years ago the bass fishing was "very excellent" too. Since then the bass have pretty much gone down the tubes while that flounder have gotten better. The better flounder trend was evident before the downtrend in the bass fishing so I doubt they are related. Also, "we could" see much better (hard to imagine) flounder fishing in the future as there are far less bass to eat the juviniles now than a few years ago.
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I remember fishing out of Quincy with my uncle in the mid or late 1940s and realy BIG catches of Winter Flounder.

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Thanks, Jason... email sent!

I checked and we don't get the OTW shows at all in our area.
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.... ANYHOW back to topic: Jason... looking forward to seeing the show... and perhaps someday joining you up there for some flounder fishing... NMFS took away our awesome flounder fishery... so nice to know someone can get them
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.... ANYHOW back to topic: Jason... looking forward to seeing the show... and perhaps someday joining you up there for some flounder fishing... NMFS took away our awesome flounder fishery... so nice to know someone can get them
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135 days until May, 2013!!!

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Me "doing what I must" (flounder cutting)..........JC
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Went flounder fishing in P-town a few years back. They are the sneakiest, best at picking bait off a hook of anything I've fished for.
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Back in 1979 Vinny Guaglilone and I took a 16 foot skiff off a dock over the P-Town Harbor where there was a scallop shucking thing going on (many day boat back then did not shuck as they were catching). We had a 5 gallon bucket of scallop guts for bait and we almost sunk the boat with flounder!
We beached it and used the bucket to measure two scoops per 60 pound carton and shipped 10 cartons right from that same dock! We were considering getting another bucket of bait and filling the boat again but we also needed some sleep before bass fishing that night. The fish were on the small side though with none over 1.25 pounds;...nothing like the stuff we get in Quincy (where they often start at 1.5 pounds)..........JC
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so May is the goto month for flundies up there outa Quincy?
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