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Old 08-15-2016, 09:18 AM
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Last night an unfortunate set of events occurred at Two Bit Road.
My 19yr old son, a lifelong accomplished fisherman went to Two Bit Road to throw some bait just after dark. He and others in the area were suddenly attacked by green heads. We've all been there at one time, a swarm so aggressive that the only option is to run for cover. He jumped in the water (w his iPhone-but that's another issue) to no avail and had to run to his truck to escape green heads on him in his clothes etc and had to leave the park to go home and strip down rid himself of the flies in his clothes. We've all been there....

He realized that he left his bait rod in the holder when he escaped and immediately returned to retrieve his rig. When he arrived at the gatehouse the attendant would not allow him to re-enter Two Bit Road for expressed purpose of retrieving his gear and exit the park. The gate attendant (citing park rules) refused his entrance and advised him that someone else with a pass and fishing gear would have to come to gain entrance to the park. I UNDERSTAND ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN FISHING RULES.
He came home to get me to return to the park to rectify this situation and retreive his gear. I tried to reason with the gate attendant and undertand why she would not let him enter Two Bit Road for expressed purpose of retrieving his gear. I was polite but insistent. She became rude, dismissive and sarcastically asked me who would have escorted him to retrieve his gear? I replied that the Berkeley Township Police Officer that I see has been in gatehouse with you for the last several hours could have watched the entrance to Two Bit Road for 5 minutes to see that exited timely. If he didn't exit timely you would have known immediately and could have taken measures to remove him from the park. She said she was doing her job and asked sarcastically whether my speaking to her wasn't wasting time needed to retrieve his gear.....
We entered Two Bit Road and his rig had indeed been stolen. Funny thing though...there were fresh tire tracks (in a walk-on area) leading up to where his rod had been in the sand?
I UNDERSTAND PARK RULES- I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SHE COULD HAVE BEEN REASONABLE AND ALLOWED HIM TO RE-ENTER FOR 5 MINUTES TO RETRIEVE HIS GEAR.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:55 AM
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Too late now but he should have walked on from S Seaside park to Two bit.

Tire tracks at Two Bit? It was a ranger, call lost and found.
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Old 08-15-2016, 01:34 PM
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Too late now but he should have walked on from S Seaside park to Two bit.

Tire tracks at Two Bit? It was a ranger, call lost and found.
Was wondering the same thing, just walk in from the lodge..
Sorry he lost his rig.
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Old 08-16-2016, 10:10 PM
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On the way out of the park he looked to his right (Island Beach Motor Lodge) and asked me if he should have parked there and walked in. I said yes, I have walked in many, many times over the years....He was just too rattled by the green heads, then Miss Sunshine in the gatehouse. Really could have been handled much better by her. Thanks for the support. Tight lines....
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:46 AM
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JOn, I don't think its that we are not offering support but, knowing the area, if you leave a rod on the beach, its gone. Lesson learned. That's what I would tell my daughter if she did it.
Now, of the park, yes, they could have shown compassion, and should of. But for myself, and allot of others here, we know how they are there and your story, not unusual, not a surprise. Hopefully like mentioned above, lost and found may have it but, wouldn't count on that either.
So again, like I mentioned above, sorry for the loss of his rig.
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Old 08-17-2016, 04:03 PM
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Just go over to Frank Daignault's forum and ask what he thinks of Park Rangers, the State Parks, CO's and especially the National Park Service.

If you do, be prepared

At Sandy Hook, there are NPS personnel who are real jerks, then there are the rest.

But in every branch, state, fed, local, you have those few who really really stand out as being *real* jerks "just doing my job" type
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Old 08-21-2016, 08:04 AM
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We all have bad days...maybe she was having one. I myself have found the staff of the park most helpful in times of need on my part. They are usually courteous (for NJ) and I have actually emailed the Superintendent to compliment a very helpful incident. Perhaps you (or better yet, your son) should write a polite email to the Super and explain you dissatisfaction with the gatehouse attendant, so he can be made aware of this and other situations.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:16 PM
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Even though I was determined to get my point across I was professional and gave her several chances to think about doing what was right. I understand bad days, so when I was at the Park the next day I decided not to stop at the office and bring it to the next level, yet. If we encounter that attitude again, I agree that a well written letter is appropriate. Maybe in-person would be even better....
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