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Old 04-30-2019, 06:43 PM
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Default Nail Knot coating?

I have used barge cement to coat the nail knot from fly line to 40 lb leader butt.
I was going to try clear silicone. Any downside? Thanks
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Old 05-01-2019, 05:46 AM
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not sure if it will be too tacky? haven't heard anyone trying that, maybe experiment on separate line first? btw, never heard of barge cement, have to look it up.
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Old 05-01-2019, 07:38 AM
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Barge is old school, and is brown in color. I ordered it online, but ran out. I let it get tacky, then roll a small football shape over the nail knot so it slides through the guides without hanging up. It is an ugly brown in color. There are probably new adhesives with similar performance that are clear. I hope to find something better. Maybe light cured acrylics?
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:56 AM
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Loon's Knot sense may work?
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:02 AM
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Joe, thanks. IDK of that product.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:12 AM
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Joe, thanks. IDK of that product.
I've used it before but, not that much. Good stuff
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:51 PM
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Joe thanks, I haven't found it yet in the usual catalogs- websites.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:52 AM
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Joe thanks, I haven't found it yet in the usual catalogs- websites.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Loon...MLJw&gclsrc=ds


Loon Outdoors UV Knot Sense


UV Knot Sense smooths and strengthens your knots immediately on the water when exposed to sunlight. It's also great for repairing flies.
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Rob, Thanks. I overlooked the obvious!
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:08 AM
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bing is my friend



then I look at the results for a "reliable" place to buy.


I'm not a huge fan of the UV goop mostly because it's another thing to misplace (the UV light itself), though I do have one of the combos (or 2 or 3) in my tying gear. BUT it may work nicely for what you want.
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:02 AM
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I've been getting some long distance with a Teeny basic sink 300 line on my eight weight, so I'm also going to coat the small knot that connects the back of the fly line to the backing as that is hanging up coming out of the stripping basket.
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Is that a shooting head (ie around 30 ft long-ish)?


I've been using integrated lines like RIO's with either an intermediate or float running line. In that configuration I've never hit the backing (unfortunately, since it would've meant a great fish if I had )
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:55 AM
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Rob,
The BS-300 has a 20 foot sinking head and 40 foot integrated floating line.
Here is a quote back when the line was available. It works well for me so I see no reason to get a new one.

"The Basic Sink fly line is designed for casts of 60 feet or less. This special sinking line has 20 feet of sinking tip with 40 feet of floating line. It is extremely easy to cast and control. It handles like our T-Series lines except the overall length is only 60 feet, as opposed to the 82 foot original T-Series. If you will be casting 60 feet or more this line will not work for you. It would cause you to cast into your backing which can be quite annoying. If you have never fished with a sinking line, this is the perfect line to get you started"
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got it... I think all the lines I've used are 100' combined (somewhere in that 80-100' length... again, more than I would cast)


300 grain is good for 8/9 wt, I think 300/350 grains are the norm for those rod weights unless you really need to get deep from a boat or yak, in which case casting distance isn't an issue for that application either.


edit: found a RIO picture... not of the lines I use, but think they all use these approximate dimensions for head vs. running line
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:58 PM
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Rob,
Nice lines. I have a Teeny T-400 for my ten weight. Its 24 foot sink and 58 foot running line. I would say it's durable since its 20 years old, my next will be the TS series which a 35 foot head and 85 foot running line. Im going to try and wear out the one I have first!
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