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Old 12-12-2005, 07:35 AM
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I know you are still there, Hank so I wanted to whet some folks' appetites. Coming soon....
Hanks impression of Babe Ruth with witnesses
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The amazing Flying Ben.

Seriously, you two, fishing with you guys has been a blessing. I have come further in less time than I could have hoped for.

As this season closes for the first time I am starting to think of my self as Saltwater Angler, instead of a Freshwater angler that I spent my whole misguided youth perfecting. And thats just fine.

And so while I will not mess with the "last cast of the season mojo" and will call it quits for 2005, I am warmed by the loophole that the 2006 season starts in 19 days!
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:14 AM
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post the weekend round up. Sorry i couldn't make it out, had to much going on at home. hope you guys did better then the other reports. Looks like i am done for the winter, time to wait for the shad run.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:29 AM
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Hanks impression of Babe Ruth with witnesses
And....
The amazing Flying Ben.

Get the idea?

OK! Seriously!:

First: Chris, it is my pleasure to have met both Ben and You!!!

I started fishing at about 3am. Sunday morning. I went to the same area that has been good to me, most of the fall. When I arrived at my destination it was dark, well after moonset. Ben arrived shortly after I got out of my vehicle. Ben put out clam rigs, I set one up, and grabbed the fly rod. It was some time when Ben had to attend to his responsibilities. He left after sunrise, but before the tide slacked out.
When the tide came to fully ebb out, the trough in the area was DEEP!!! I attempted to cross it, but when I got to waste deep, it became quite clear that a decent sized wave would have been up to my throat.
Right as the tide was turning a guy to my north was hooking up on metals at the rip's edge where it met the trough. There was white crinkling water, almost a bubbling look. Once the water started rising that type water became accessible to my casts with my 9' croix, and hopkins w/ teaser rig. The fish were hittin' under moderate retrieve, after the cast was well up onto the bar and dropped off into the trough. There came a point where I realized I could hit the good water with a fly cast. So I made the teaser I was hooking up on, a fly, and hit the current/ white water edge. It took some retrieve modification, and I found the cadence. At one point I hooked and released 3 fish on 3 consecutive casts with the fly rod. I ended the trip having caught what I consider enough to justify the price of admission!!! ;D

What Shipwreck is talkin' about...
(along the "Last Cast" lines)
Hanks impression of Babe Ruth with witnesses

When Chris arrived around 2ish pm, I had been on the sand for some time, and paying very close attention. So we meet up and I gave him the low down, and he goes after it. There was one point where I saw water at the bars edge, just a short walk away, well away from other anglers. I knew that there had to be at least one fish in and around an area I could hit with a bucktail and teaser. I walk over to Chris at a lull when I noticed the water, I pointed out the edge, and told him I was gonna' hook up in one cast. He replied positively. I get over to the area, bang out the longest cast I could to get the bucktail swimming low in the current. I get it back and no fish. Now I KNOW there is a fish in that area. I cast back to the same spot, same retrieve, and FISH ON!!! I should have called it on three casts. Oh well. The truly funny thing is that when I hooked up, almost immiediately after, Chris hooked up in the spot where I last taked with him. That's good stuff!!!

The amazing Flying Ben.

Through out the course of this season Benn has proven to be a most loyal and trusted friend. He fishes with the confidence of a seasoned angler, comes home with fish like one, and he's only been fishing for 2 years. He's accompanied me on trips, and into conditions that only the most dedicated pursue. Hell, one friend I took out to the sods almost had a heart attack doing what I consider to be part of the trip. There was a point he expressed an interest in the fly rod. So I explained to him the concept behind casting the fly rod, answered a few questions, and lent him my stuff for a couple trips. Well, it's Sunday afternoon and Benn shows up. I had kept him abreast of the scene throughout the day, and when he finished his responsibilities he arrived. He asked if he could use my fly rod before it gets dark. I told him to do it!!! He takes the rig and heads for the water.
A brief time elapses. I'm fashioning an eperimental rig, and notice Chris freakin' out, but he's not hooked up. I look over and sure enough, the fly rod has life to it. Benn is hooked up. I made a bee line to him, with camera, and watched the fish get beached. We captured some images in the sun's low angled light, and Benn bid fare well to his first fly rod caught bass. That lone event made my whole season. Benn went to the water's edge fully believing he was going to catch a fish; and did. Now that is good catching!!!

My season has now been actualized. I've both taken and given, and I feel at peace, however temporary, with my pursuits to the salt. I'm toggin' early New Years day with NWB, GT, Benn, and I'm sure a top notch gang rounding out the crew! I will ceremoniously fish last light new years eve, and then again first light new years day, and I'll party away my 10hrs. of closed season!!!

Hey Chris, did I leave anything out???
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:39 AM
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Hey Chris, did I leave anything out???
{images to follow soon}

Yeah, a couple things.

The moon was awesome, the sunset one of the best of the year.

Its cool how three trucks parked next to each other do different things to peoples perceptions of events. While Tank was tinkering in his truck blowing up animal balloons Ben hooks up on the fly rod. I was just walking down after changing teasers (caught a 23" on the new one, sand eel) and I was looking right at Ben when his eyes get the size of saucers and then cold like Eastwood's. He was not surprised cause I know he doesnt toss a bait without expecting a fish. BUT he was amped to the hilt, and it was alot of fun seeing it all happen in his eyes. I hardly saw him touch his clam rod the rest of the night.

Speaking of peoples perceptions of events...We were into a few fish, nothing major, but since our 3 buggies were parked next to us we suddenly started to get crowded. People mjust have thought it was a blitz. Right up until some guy comes and parks right next to us and starts fishing right on top of the "camp". He must have thought we were just strangers, but he was the one who felt strange after he realized we were all together and he was pulling a googan or ***hole role and left. Sad part was he was a guide.( and he caught nothing), NEVER SAID A WORD OR ACKNOWLEDGED OUR EXISTENCE.

Here is why I say that, in contrast, when Tank and I were discussing the water and he called the fish (amazing), he left out that there was a guy parked right on top of it.
Here is the difference; Tank walks over, chat with the guy for a good couple of minutes get permission to take a swing. I walked over and told the guy what Tank was up to. We both laughed, and I said something about Tank talking with fish on a pretty regular basis. We agree he is 'special' as he stares at the water long enough for me to walk back 100yds to my original spot.
Then that SOB hooked up! Me and our neighbor look at each other, mouths open, then I get hit.
That is how you can fish someone else's spot without being an jerk and instead of looking like a googan (even if you have guide advertising all over your truck) inspire and delight the angler you 'borrowed' it from.

Lastly, I wanted to also talk about spots. CALM DOWN I am not going to burn Guppies new hot spot! There are two ways to look at spots. One approach is to put em in a GPS and come back and try to repeat, it works, sometimes. Another approach is to hunt a new one every time. Tank wrote that he was on a spot that was good to him before. I have fished with him a good bit this summer into fall. (book is coming) He has never been parked in remotely the same spot. He is in general areas, but no spots. What he does is stare at the water so long he fiqures out how and when the bite will happen at THAT spot. And he waits for it. I have never, ever seen him pack up and move down a few feet or to the other end of the island. This is an important lesson.

I think that is it. Some other things I saw regarding a good looking rip that wasnt and can you tell the difference. I wasnt able to.

gotta go to work
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:29 AM
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As usual I had a great time fishing with you guys. I started fishing last fall and with my proximity to the beach and my obsesive nature I had a good deal of fish and considered it a good season. I had learned a ton from this site but wanted to fish with some people who could really show me the ropes. Through Hank's post's I thought he seemed like a more than helpful guy so I invited myself on a sod bank trip with him and wound up with a good friend and fishing partner. He has lent me rods and given me numerous lures, hand fulls of fly's and he likes nothing more than to share his knowledge and expierience with others. It turns out to have been an awesome spring and fall for me this year but it wouldn't have been the same without Hank. We hooked up with Chris early this fall and I have fished with him several times he is also a great guy with a lot of fishing knowledge and a persistene and endurance that is really impressive.
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Great writings guys, the 3 of you really caputured the greatness of fishing in this thread.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:02 AM
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Now those are some Happy pics
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:19 AM
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With smiles like those....nothing more needs to be said.

OUTSTANDING!!

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Old 12-13-2005, 12:01 PM
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As usual,Fishtanks pics are outstanding,and his writing is too! I have fished with Hank several times,Benny a few,and have met Chris,but the only thing that happens then is he loses his plug due to a breakoff when I pull up(sorry Chris...)The stories posted by them are what surfcasting is all about.You meet someone,fish with them,learn,and enjoy!Though Hank and Chris might be winding down for the season,I'm sure I'll see Benny out there throughout the winter.Hope everone had a good fall season.Though I didnt get a cow,I enjoy every minute I get to be out there!
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These threads have been great and really really appreciate it, even more since my own striper fishing was fairly limited... especially down at the IBSP area, which I had hoped to hit more this year.

NOW, can I get Hank to come up to Sandy Hook and teach me a few things???

Actually, even in my fairly limited fishing, by that I mean only a couple hours at a time, it's neat to actually just stare, think, try, and then learn. Sometimes things work, other times they don't but for sure it helps to keep the wood burning upstairs and try to learn as much as possible for the next time. You guys have definitely done that and been gracious enough to pass it along to the rest of us !!!

tnx and tight lines, all!
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Though Hank and Chris might be winding down for the season,I'm sure I'll see Benny out there throughout the winter.
You'll definitely see Ben out there. As for me, I'm still not ruling out running down with NWB christmas day, and fishing the day after. We both have off. The water temps. and weather leading up will set my mind. We also are not far from having ice to fish here in Pa. Decisions decisions, good dilema though. We'll see.

I'm pretty sure too, that if larger bass and good bait make their presence known, Chris will be right there with us!!!

Keep me posted on the conditions,
My gear is ready to do battle!!!
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NOW, can I get Hank to come up to Sandy Hook and teach me a few things???
Rob,
My situation, and endeavors with the salt, are unique in that I put all my free time into fishing. I learned about what not to do, when not to fish, and when to just say "screw it", and tie on a white shiney clouser, because if they won't hit that then they are probably not there.
My first couple years goin' to the salt I only brought a fly rod. I have to go when I can, and deal with quite frequent imperfect conditions. It's only by putting myself through gruling, snott laden, conditions, that the "process of elimination" has become productive for me. I lucked out being on the beach this season during changes. I hit a wind clock to the NE on the edge of a Nor' easter, I hit a wind change from the S to a NW, I and NWB fished an encroaching cold front and got hammered by snow. So I had the good fortune of my alloted time to fish coinciding with a weather change and good tide changes. Ben makes the best point in regard to how I fish; if a person stays in one place and fishes for 24hrs. straight, like I do, there is bound to be a point that the presentaion crosses paths with a fish. Also, paying close attention to how the water changes as it moves in and out, current formations pop up, that exist only briefly, when I see them and can hit them, my success rate is usually good.

As far as being able to teach you anything, I doubt it. You're an accomplished caster, and know what's goin' on. I think there is one thing that has become part of my reality, that I've gained from fishing in general, from the time I could walk, that I constantly reinforce to myself, and it has nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with faith, a positive outlook, and self confidence...

Think closely about this abstract concept. What is it, that at one time and angler can't buy a fish, and at another time, they can't keep them off their line. I know for me personally, there has been times where people were hooking up all around me, and for some reason I wasn't "feelin'" my presentation. I was in my head, switching flies, wondering what would work, meanwhile not giving 110% of my focus to my presentation. Some times I feel that if an angler finds their mental\spiritual zone, and almost hits a trance like focus on what they are doing, they almost have a power to will fish to their area. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not runnin' off to the Maharishi Yogi, and diving into transcendental meditation, while doing hits from a hookah, but I am saying that just like a martial arts specialist is able to break cinder blocks with their forhead, if we can find our zone of focus, and fish with that focused drive, our success rates will sky rocket. I know there are times when I just get an assured feeling that "it's time". For whatever reason, my attention is directed to an area, and presentation type, and it just becomes clear. It doesn't happen all the time, and there are times I'm "feelin' it" and don't catch, but during every given trip, at some point I'll get hit by it, and during this season, if I didn't catch, usually Ben did.
I guess it all boils down to the mystique of looking out into the expanse of water, and not knowing what fate has in store for you. Then taking a deep breath, clearing your head, seeing the whole picture, while looking at nothing, and allowing the answer to find you. At the point you deliberately set your heart to the fact that you have all the faculties, and skills necessary to achieve your goal, success will be had!
So if you want to fish with a person who has, or will find, every reason to believe they will catch fish, you may fish with me anytime!!! The only things I'll garauntee are a firm hand shake, a constant smile, and a great freakin' time trying to convince ourselves we know what the hell we're doin' out there!!!
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Jeez Hank,
Ya got me worried with all that yoga and karate talk now... You are right about believing in what you are doing being right though.If you go out,and know what you do is what has produced in the past works,and you get nothing,probably just a bad day,and nothing will help you.I have had those days when I get nothing,and the guy next to me is getting them right and left,then others when it's reversed.Karma? Who knows,and I really dont care.You take what you know,what others can show you,put it to use.It's fishing,not quantum physics!(thought,I along with many here try to make it into that! )You,like Benny,Shipwreck,and others that I have met from here,just enjoy the hell out of it,guess thats why we keep doing it,catch or not...
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Rob,
My situation, and endeavors with the salt, are unique in that I put all my free time into fishing. I learned about what not to do, when not to fish, and when to just say "screw it", and tie on a white shiney clouser, because if they won't hit that then they are probably not there.
... if a person stays in one place and fishes for 24hrs. straight, like I do, there is bound to be a point that the presentaion crosses paths with a fish. Also, paying close attention to how the water changes as it moves in and out, current formations pop up, that exist only briefly, when I see them and can hit them, my success rate is usually good.
... Now don't get me wrong, I'm not runnin' off to the Maharishi Yogi, and diving into transcendental meditation, while doing hits from a hookah, .... I know there are times when I just get an assured feeling that "it's time". For whatever reason, my attention is directed to an area, and presentation type, and it just becomes clear. It doesn't happen all the time, and there are times I'm "feelin' it" and don't catch, but during every given trip, at some point I'll get hit by it, and during this season, ...
So if you want to fish with a person who has, or will find, every reason to believe they will catch fish, you may fish with me anytime!!! The only things I'll garauntee are a firm hand shake, a constant smile, and a great freakin' time trying to convince ourselves we know what the hell we're doin' out there!!!
well, let's talk about that hookah for a second... between these comments and the previous pictures I'm sure you're into some strong stuff..... :p

I hear you about "feelin' it", definitely. BUT not having been out for days straight, there is something to be said about getting input from someone who HAS

I know Frank made the point in "twenty years" that he fished more in one summer than what some anglers could fish in 10 (or their entire lives) just coming on weekends.

so one of these days I'll catch up with you (and others) down at the island...
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guess I just have to look for the guys with the towels on their heads and saying "Oooohhhhhhmmmmmm....' while talking to the fish, huh?

nah!

definitely true about the optimism as well. got a friend who has a real negative attitude (although he does seem to be skunked more than anyone I know...) saying "I never catch any fish..." and also focus for sure... but there are those times we are just out-of-sync with what's going on, no matter how much we try. And there are those other times that we relish when they happen.... experience and time on the water definitely matter.

So, now, about the hook ....
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