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Old 06-13-2019, 10:30 AM
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:34 AM
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"Awsome evening on the Miramchi river. Called it quits early...hit 200 fish and arms are tiered. Biggest was 81cm. All on fly."
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:36 AM
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That Miramachi is really hosting a lot of bass. You have to wonder where they are coming from.
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That Miramachi is really hosting a lot of bass. You have to wonder where they are coming from.
The Mirimichi River, the last time I got out my really long yardstick and measured , is something like 500 miles, as the crow flies, from Cape Cod. It's way, way longer the way that a fish would have to swim: having to go around Nova Scotia would make it 700-800 miles, at least from the mouth of the Mirimichi to, say, Gloucester or P-Town.

With the distance, that's gotta be a separate and distinct breeding population of stripe-it bass, right, than the Chesapeake-Delaware-Hudson stocks that we catch down here.

And wouldn't that explain the abundance of the hoser striped bass, while the stocks down here are somewhat depleted? If that body of fish has been allowed to grow, to reproduce and all, with very limited fishing pressure (unlike down here, where the fish never get a break), they just might have quietly become a very viable recreational stock up there.

This stuff is interesting to me.
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:31 PM
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The Miramichi River is where they spawn and they were fishing spawning aggregations most likely.
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Losing Essential Smolts to Striped Bass Predation in Southwest Miramichi
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:30 PM
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I agree with all the above posts: that it is a separate race of striper; that striper predation is slaughtering the Atlantic salmon. Next issue is whether or not Fisheries should interfer to protect the salmon or just let things develop naturally. With Maratime traditions so entrenched, I doubt that locals are going to stand by and watch their salmon fishing go down. Is there room in the watershed for both species?

If we can stand another variable, does global warming play into this striper development?
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Old 06-17-2019, 10:34 AM
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If we can stand another variable, does global warming play into this striper development?
A better way to frame this is whether warming waters have played into this.

The answer to this is an unambiguous yes: waters have warmed. This is a much more empirical (and non-political) subject than "global warming." Scientists have observed things like lobster migrations that are directly attributed to warming waters. And water temperature is much more easily measured than something as complex as gases our enormously complicated atmospheric system.

The question about what to do with the trend of stripers moving north and out-competing salmon? I got no idea. But I believe 100% that warming oceans are making waters north of their traditional range more hospitable to the stripe-it bass.
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Old 06-17-2019, 11:58 AM
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A lot of things figure in to decline and uptick in striper populations. Nobody mentions bluefish predation any more when examining striper decline. But there was a time, back when bluefish were in greater numbers, when we were catching schoolies with bluefish cuts in them. You couldn't catch a schoolie that that didn't have a mark on them. I know we have no choice but the scientific community does not know why things happen the way they do. Its all speculation.

As for these periodic declines in striper population, we have been experiencing them since who knows how long? Moratoriums, regulation tightening, blame placing? You would think people would tire of finding excuses for population changes. Wildlife has always suffered from variability, whimsical variations. Reproduction has always been arbitrary with every animal on the planet.
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:25 PM
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If they want to help the salmon maybe an open season on the bass and take home only.
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Old 06-25-2019, 03:44 PM
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I think they already have an open season on bass. My guess is that nobody wants the bass. Locals probably use the bass but there are not that many locals. This is not Long Island we are talking about here.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:04 PM
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I'd fill the freezer up with fillets and put the racks in the garden under the squash/corn/pole beans.

I bet those fish are a lot cleaner then the ones that spawn in USA waters (PCBs and such).

Might be a market for them if transported to the cities.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:19 PM
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They might already be selling them in Canada. They eat fish like everybody else. Also, stripers are Kosher for Canada Jews also which is an added feature stripers offer. Walter would know if stripers are sold in Canadian cities. Where is Walter? Seems to me that stripers would be utilized if they are in nuisance numbers.
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