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Old 05-30-2018, 12:18 PM
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What do you think of those guys? Are they nuts?
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I don't think the NRA contains all nuts. However, since nuts are in the increase across society, it follows that there will be more and more nuts within the NRA.
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What do you think of those guys? Are they nuts?
If they are nuts then I am a nut and I might add I am enjoying the ride fighting back.
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Only had one opportunity to chat with Wayne LaPierre a number of years ago. He is a very bright and articulate gent and is of the mindset, as am I, that the recent examples of attempts to grab all guns is definitely the end game of the left. At the only NRA endorsed rally I ever attended most of the people there were well informed and well spoken. The mix of characters was great and I saw representatives of communities with various religious, racial, and sexual preferences. They appeared to me to be normal people with a common cause......of course my friends and I seem normal as well....some may differ on that point!
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:24 AM
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I don't think the NRA contains all nuts. However, since nuts are in the increase across society, it follows that there will be more and more nuts within the NRA.
You got that right. The NRA does not hose its members down. I just sent a two year renewal and have been a member for 40 years. I support the NRA because they help protect our right to own and use firearms for hunting. There is more but I'll save that for another day.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:31 AM
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People despise the NRA. They commonly blame all these mass shootings on the NRA. The feel that if they could outlaw all recreational firearms, these terrible events could be prevented. Of course banning firearms would not effect their lives, which is why its okay to ban them. Anybody remember Carlton Heston: "from these cold hands!"
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Ok, since you brought it up. A political action committee that buys public policy which further pushes their agenda and lines their pockets with money, which buys more public policy ad naseum. They sell fear. They sell a made up conspiracy , as which was already stated here, that our government is plotting to take the guns away. How many guns have you had taken away in those 40-50 yrs? They select a “piece” of the 2nd Amendment as their mantra, and take liberties with the actual meaning of the clause and sell it as gospel.
As an aside, one of the things I enjoyed about this site was it’s non political side. However, in this divided America, it seems no one or no thing is free from its spell.
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Taking guns away was tried when they sought to ban all "automatic" weapons that included "semi-automatic" firearms. It was clear that those who sought this did not know the difference. My wife was using a Remington 1100 semi-auto for clay targets in trap shooting. Trap shooting is not a violent endeavor and there is no record of a trap gun ever being used in a crime of violence. You guys always blame the wrong people and respond to that invective with non-solutions. The NRA is our protection from that.

Re your remark about money don't you see that the Teamsters Union smoozes the Democrats the same way the NRA strokes the Republicans?
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Absolutely Frank, I don’t deny that, unfortunately that is the way our Government operates these days. I don’t think out FF expected that either. You have your opinion, I have mine. However, I do remember the days when the NRA promoted gun safety and safe hunting practices,,,, I’m sure they still do, but somewhere along the line they got in the political arena. I’ll leave you with this, the great irony of all this is that the NRA will actually be the cause of the Government taking away guns someday.
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You don't have to leave, Bob. We allow differences of opinion. Our guns are not going to be taken away as along as there are Republicans in Congress and Whitehouse. I don't want to hunt with a sharp stick and I love hunting just as much as I love fishing.
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Taking guns away was tried when they sought to ban all "automatic" weapons that included "semi-automatic" firearms. It was clear that those who sought this did not know the difference. My wife was using a Remington 1100 semi-auto for clay targets in trap shooting. Trap shooting is not a violent endeavor and there is no record of a trap gun ever being used in a crime of violence. You guys always blame the wrong people and respond to that invective with non-solutions. The NRA is our protection from that.

Re your remark about money don't you see that the Teamsters Union smoozes the Democrats the same way the NRA strokes the Republicans?
Not for nothing but "big pharmaceutical" as in opioids is 10 to 20X the contributor as the gun lobby.
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There were guns everywhere in households during the 50's through the 70's when I grew up and there were no school shootings that I ever read about. Just my opinion mind you, but it's the lack of discipline and family values that have crept into our society, not the guns. The nut job will stab you if he can't shoot you, or worse..he will blow you up. Differing opinions acceptable, but that's mine.
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There were guns everywhere in households during the 50's through the 70's when I grew up and there were no school shootings that I ever read about. Just my opinion mind you, but it's the lack of discipline and family values that have crept into our society, not the guns. The nut job will stab you if he can't shoot you, or worse..he will blow you up. Differing opinions acceptable, but that's mine.

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I won't be too specific but there are better ways to kill a whole bunch of school kids than with a gun. The wackos doing it have no imagination.

Surprised no one mentioned arming the teachers. My wife and I could have been great candidates for that with only minimal training.
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You got friends at XXX Frank? Lol! I’m not going anywhere Frank, I like this site. BTW, It’s not the guns I oppose so much, it’s the buying of public policy ( which is abhorrent IMO), and is rampant in Gov on all sides.
Arming teachers won’t solve a thing. There’s school buses, dances, sporting events, after school activities, etc, etc, etc. If not at school, somewhere else.
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