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Old 01-18-2019, 03:00 PM
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Default Party boat togging

I'm sitting here musing on getting out to tog on one of the big boats running from Brielle or Manasquan when or if winter takes a break. It will be my first time.

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How deep do these captains take us? Is it 40 to 60 feet or 90 to 120? For the shallower range I think I might be able to use my slow pitch jigging rod with a 1 or 2 ounce tog jig. The deeper range might require heavier, more traditional rigs like they rent on the boats. I've been watching John Skinner videos and would like to try the lighter tackle he is demonstrating. I just don't want to be the a**hole with the wrong tackle messing things up for everyone else on the boat.

Is there anyone who can give me some idea of what might be best to try or expect? Thanks!
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:52 PM
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40+... don't think it's 90+


However, guaranteed you need heavier weight out there. You have to hit the wreck or structure that the captain puts you on, and that means getting down. Think 6oz+.


You also have to pull the fish *out* of the structure or they will snag you. And prepare to be snagged anyways. Perfect the "bounce" method of getting out of snags. Bring extra rigs. Tie the terminal tackle with no hardware but hook and sinker using overhead double line knots and/or droppers depending on how you prefer and what's working.
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:53 PM
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Don't think you're going to try John Skinner's method on a party boat... just very unlikely to work.


Also, if there is room on the boat, don't be afraid to move spots if you're not getting bites. I don't advocate mugging someone who is not your friend, but if there is clear room, moving is fine.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:00 PM
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… and thanks again!
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:18 PM
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You can tog jigs on a party boat no problem pending the seas. 50 -60 foot is about max id do. Depending on the current a 1 2 or 3 oz is all I'd jig fish.
This year the old conventional method has out produced the jig for me. I alsway start with the jig for 20 min or so, if no results i put it down and fish conventional. Once I put a few in the pail I go back and play with the jig.
Some days the jig works, others not.
These fish are picky.
20 lb test and I prefer a floro leader as it's more abrasive.
Everyone has their own views on the jig rod. Some say you can't stop a big fish.... cant fight a big fish....no backbone to get it out of the rocks.....
The way I jig fish is a locked down drag, when the fish hits just lift the rod high try to get a turn or two on the handel and hold the fish out of the rocks, no drag.... fish can pull. Let the rod do the work and let the fish tire out.
Just hope the line does not part, hence my use of the tuffer floor. Abrasions will be on any leader, if it pops it pops, that is tog fishing.

This super cold front will shut these fish down for a few days. I fish on the fish monger, the premier NJ tog boat and this weekend he pulled it out for the season....
The Mimi is still running and is a good tog boat i also use.
Late season Winter togging is all about "the one bite" meaning the big fish like to play in the cold. When you get"the bite" your tackle and yourself better be ready fpr her.
Good luck., it's cold out there.
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Which is why I was saying forget the Skinner method with a light jigging rod
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:00 PM
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Excellent info, and I thank you both. This might or might not work out, but hoping beats crying.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:50 AM
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Now I'm all revved up to go out next week, likely on Tuesday when it's looking like better than 50 degrees and sunny.


Can anyone recommend a party boat that's still sailing. Brielle, Belmar or Highlands would be fine for me. I looked at the Mimi IV, but that's $450 for up to 6 passengers, and I'm only me and maybe a buddy. A big boat will do for my first trip and it probably won't be maxed out on a winter Tuesday.
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"that other site"

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Old 02-04-2019, 02:40 PM
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Thanks!
I found the best and most usable info on that site. We'll see how the fishing goes!
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:12 AM
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"shoulda been a PM "



thanks for posting that (even though we are NOT supposed to mention other sites here... "no one was watching" )


haven't been over there in years.
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:41 AM
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I meant to send that as a PM but posted it on accident.
I then tried to edit it out but I couldn't.
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You'll be fishing deeper than 40' probably 80'+

Skinner fishes LI sound I believe. Whole different animal than NY Bight area. I'm still trying to figure the while jig thing out. From shore I do ok with them but mostly smaller fish. Gave them a try on the boats a few times but still don't think I caught a keeper on them lol.

I've been using a spinner that was built for fluke bucktailing and thought it was too soft for that but seems to be good for tog.

You gotta see when Mimi is running open boat.
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Wow, a blast from the past... gottog!

Glad to see you're still kickin' around. Get the youngun (s?) out yet?
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Wow, a blast from the past... gottog!

Glad to see you're still kickin' around. Get the youngun (s?) out yet?
Not on the boat yet. Jason may be able to handle the whole day this year for fluke so hopefully we'll get out this Summer. Logan is only 2 and a wild child so he has a long time to go yet. Heck I only made it out a few times myself this past season for tog. Got blown out a few times and was sick for another trip I had to bail on. Did catch some fish, even a double digit though. Hopefully Good Friday trip starts 2019 off right for me
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