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Old 10-09-2018, 12:15 AM
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Who are you guys using for your tide reports? I don?t understand why every website I go to for the same town has completely conflicting reports. For example I fish IBSP and check Betty and nicks website for the report, that?ll show one time, then I?ll check tides4fishing and that?s hours different, the windy app has a different time, and then I?ll drive through the ibsp gate and the time there is different too. Are tides hard to predict accurately?
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:10 AM
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Make sure you pick the ocean not the bay.
http://saltwatertides.com/dynamic.di...rseysites.html
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:55 AM
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Make sure you pick the ocean not the bay.
http://saltwatertides.com/dynamic.di...rseysites.html

actually I find that site confusing...


NOAA has a few standard stations:


https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/map/index.html


Then there are other sites:

https://tides4fishing.com/us/new-jer...d-beach#_tides


In short, as Jess mentioned there are different tide stations that can be used.


Down here, there are stations at various points around the islands and calculated tides for channels, inlets, etc based on those stations and knowledge of currents.


Generally, though, for any one area, you find out a reference station, then use your own calculation for a spot if significantly different.


e.g. There are stations at one of the inlets, and also a bridge way in the back bay locally. For tog fishing I want to be there 1/2 before slack at a favorite spot that is in between the two... tide/current wise ... not geographically. So I check two stations and plan accordingly.


BUT, prevailing winds and moon phase affect tides big time as well.


To your question: different sites can use different stations that will, in fact, have slightly offset tide times based on either direct or indirect tide calculations.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:41 AM
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Looks like the only station in my area is in Atlantic City an hour south of me, that seems to be the closest to accurate.
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Old 10-09-2018, 11:13 AM
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I have yet to find a site which is 100% accurate = because there is none , only estimates + & - levels and wind control the time of accuracy , so don't get bent out of shape if you read the tide incorrectly = be early & stay late
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Old 10-09-2018, 11:18 AM
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Android app "Tides Near Me."
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:43 PM
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Android app "Tides Near Me."

I use this all the time, and agree that it's excellent!


But do realize that tides are dynamic due to current weather.


A few weeks ago, went out to clam at a sandbar that is normally a few acres high and dry at low tide. However, due to a string of e-ne winds and the confluence of the solstice, the backbay waters were stacked up such that low tide was a few feet higher, leaving a small patch of the sandbar accessible. Typical.


and once you get tides "down", then try to predict *currents*
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Just downloaded tides near me and looked at Seaside Park, NJ and it show's only one high tide at 12pm. Another source tells me theres a high tide at 8am and 8pm. I mean we're not talking about a half hour they are 4 hours off.
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don't know what the other source is, but I'd go with Tides near me
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don't know what the other source is, but I'd go with Tides near me

this one agrees with tides near me:


https://tides4fishing.com/us/new-jer...de-park#_tides
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Just downloaded tides near me and looked at Seaside Park, NJ and it show's only one high tide at 12pm. Another source tells me theres a high tide at 8am and 8pm. I mean we're not talking about a half hour they are 4 hours off.

you really have to know where the tide station is.


just a quick perusal found the tides you mentioned... but one had the station listed as barnegat bay:


https://www.tides.net/newjersey/2440/


So, guaranteed there is a huge difference depending on the bay side vs. ocean side reporting
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What you need to do is find one station, correlate it to your own observations and then go with that.
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...and always use braid
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I go with usharbors.com. Then again, I?am only looking at Sandy Hook. And I only need to know when the tide is going out, don?t bother fishing any other tide.
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Went out tonight, seems that the only sources that are accurate for IBSP within 30min are Betty and nicks fishing report, Surfline website, and NOAA using Atlantic City?s station. Tides Near Me, Tides4Fishing and The windy app were off by hours. High tide was observed around 8pm.
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