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Old 06-24-2010, 06:59 PM
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The Hudson is always murky compared to the outer waters. Muddy bottom and steep dirt cliffs on both sides. As far as pollution of the Hudson..I hear it's cleaner than it used to be. But I wouldn't feel comfortable eating a fish out of the vicinity of NYC. I like to think the stripers I have eaten swam off Block Island the week before..
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:22 AM
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That's a head thing, Montauk. Even when pigs were fed garbage 50 years ago, pork was delicious. Look at what lobsters eat -- tuna poop. I suppose you don't eat lobsters needah.
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Head thing, that made me laugh!
A few years ago, got an "accidental fluke" fishing for stripers, Fileted it, and stuffed it with crab meat (caught by me also) for the little the little woman and I, and she loved it! A few days later, my son stopped by, and she was telling her how good it was. He proceded to tell her how fluke lived on the bottom in the mud and muck, and how crabs would eat your eyeballs if you drowned and were left in the water. She said she didnt care what "they" ate, as long as they tasted good when she ate "them"...
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Old 06-26-2010, 07:14 AM
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Simalarly, as in all in the head, what does appearance have to do with flavor? Yet, chefs all know that in order to be appetizing, they throw in a bright green sprig of something and pretty up the plate and also add some color.

Further digressing on seafood, why is it that oysters have to be consumed with Scotch? Its bad, too. Flippin oysters got me smashulated last night!
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:14 AM
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Take Tilapia for example - the 5th most consumed fish in the USA - is often used to clean out aquaculture tanks after hybrid bass are sent to market. They eat the waste right off the tank bottom...

Pig farms in Vegas area are infamous for using excess food from the casino buffets to feed the stock. Now that's pretty good eatin for a pig.

For crabs...I heard that they can excrete anything that does not taste right almost immediately without digesting/absorbing it. Many of the pollutants bypass the meat this way. This is coming from a guy that can eat crab blindfolded and tell you what coast it was caught off of - works for me!
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If you worry about what you eat eats you'll be as skinny as if you visited the kitchen of many of your favorite resturants before dining.

At least when you take it from the ocean you know it wasn't pumped full of drugs at the feed yard like your latest filet mignon or force fed to get to table size so quickly that muscle couldn't even develop ---- like that marigold chicken you eat three times a week. Remember whem maet had texture?

My buddy used to eat carp out of a local stream. His mom would let them flush themselves in the tub for a day or so --- getting rid of the mud taste. That was not gourmet -- just poor.

If you have ever eaten a fish out of the Med you are probably innoculated for most European diseases.

Our waterways and air around Philly are cleaner than they have ever been in my 60 years --- at the expense of the industries that have disapeared. Some of my friends from north Joisey say air ain't air unless you can taste it.

For those of us over say 40, who have fished inshore Joisey coast, you likely remember the trash in the water from the NYC trash barges. They were supposed to dump 75 miles out but discovered that if they started dumping as soon as they cleared the harbor they could unload much quicker.

If you know anyone who dives the Joisey shore they will tell you that it is cleaner tan it has been in as long as anyone can remember ---- but the BP bollix may cahnge that soon!!
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The Hudson is always murky compared to the outer waters. Muddy bottom and steep dirt cliffs on both sides. As far as pollution of the Hudson..I hear it's cleaner than it used to be. But I wouldn't feel comfortable eating a fish out of the vicinity of NYC. I like to think the stripers I have eaten swam off Block Island the week before..
Montauk, I know what you're saying; I tell myself the same thing about NYC area bass. The wild card is that there's no guarantee where those Hudson stripers will roam to. I talked to a NY state biologist recently who is one of the guys catching and testing fish for contaminants in the Hudson. He said that most stripers, even some big ones (they've had more time to absorb junk) aren't too bad. He also said that he's had smaller ones (a 15lber recently) that were "hot"...really contaminated.
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Speaking of the Hudson, the issue there is PCBs when they refer to "hot". However, it has never been proven that PCBs, nor at what particular level, actually cause desease. When you read the fine print about this issue, none of the allied science has proven conclusive -- only suspected.
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