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Old 04-18-2008, 05:54 AM
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Talked to my buddy down in Buxton yesterday,a "compromise" in the ORV battle was reached. The lowlights, ORV use at night will be prohibited from May1-Nov.15. 3200ft. buffer closure for 0RVs. Penalties for violations will be a fine and more expanded buffers for each violation.Daily closure expansions are almost a given. About three months of full access(not in prime fishing season).This is just a very short review of what came down, I do not know the particulars(when this goes into effect). If this is all true, just wait untill these a..holes set there sites on N.J. I really can`t stand the direction this country is headed.
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Old 04-18-2008, 07:19 AM
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That is not final.
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Old 04-18-2008, 07:33 AM
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That is not final.
No, but this group has very deep pockets,well organized and connected.
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Old 04-18-2008, 07:45 AM
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I just re read the settlement. Boyle still has to rule on it. If he does, it would be in effect until the negotiated rule making is in place. That being the case, there is no reason for the plaintiffs to hustle for a rule. The zone would be expanded only if someone intentionally killed a piping plover.

How this started is that the NPS did not have a rule for beach driving in place at OBX as required by federal law in a national park. They just let it go because it was going OK. The enviros jumped on this loophole. BTW, different in NJ. In NJ the beaches are state owned, not federal. Only other state I am aware of where this is the case is Texas. This is a good thing. Local is closer. They listen better to the people.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:11 AM
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http://www.islandfreepress.org/2008A...sentDecree.pdf

Here is the actual decree as released to the public

Here are the maps

http://www.islandfreepress.org/2008A...DecreeMaps.pdf
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Old 04-20-2008, 08:13 PM
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Boyle responded. He is asking too many questions. Questions that have no bearing on the case. He is going to attempt to legislate from the bench.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:26 AM
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Boyle scheduled the next hearing on April 30.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:56 AM
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I just re read the settlement. Boyle still has to rule on it. If he does, it would be in effect until the negotiated rule making is in place. That being the case, there is no reason for the plaintiffs to hustle for a rule. The zone would be expanded only if someone intentionally killed a piping plover.

How this started is that the NPS did not have a rule for beach driving in place at OBX as required by federal law in a national park. They just let it go because it was going OK. The enviros jumped on this loophole. BTW, different in NJ. In NJ the beaches are state owned, not federal. Only other state I am aware of where this is the case is Texas. This is a good thing. Local is closer. They listen better to the people.
except for Gateway National Park: NJ division has no beach driving, but what about NY? Breezy Pt. etc. Perhaps the rules that are in place satisfy the fed requirement already?
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:53 AM
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More at Fire Island, but LIBBA has their eyes open. Breezy is "blessed" with some do gooders who change the rules to suit them at their whim. CoE in Philadelphia in in charge and they move personnel around too often to be effective.
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:09 AM
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This is just another example of our inept federal government failing to comply with regulation enforcement of legal mandates and a zealous reaction of wildlife groups who swing the pendulum the other way, using our court system to patch up the failures of the System of Governement. Government by the People is a very tedious walk on the edge.

I want to know two things...why do we, the taxpayers, have to pay for their lawyers and how do I get a job with the NPS to do monitoring and turtle patrols???
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:44 PM
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This entire issue scares the chit out of me. I seriously dread what lies ahead for us that simply want to go out, relax, and fish and soak in all the mom nature wants us to appreciate. I have a feeling this is only the beginning!
The tree-huggers have endless resources and a badly twisted sense of reality. Very scary!!!
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:48 AM
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Keep us updated on what comes out of the hearing today.
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