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Old 02-20-2008, 01:13 PM
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Making my first trip/vacation the second to the last week of July to the cape with my family. We have rented a place on N. Shore Blvd in E. Sandwich that is direct bay front(mouth of Scorton Creek is only a few hubdred yards). I have spent my fair share of time on the water but never above Sandy Hook, NJ. I have been logging the hours on-line and reading your books Frank (by the way - absolutely incredible!). From what i am able to determine, late July is on the far tail end of the northerly migration, so my expectations are leveled on what I have availble to catch. My question for you and all the insightful contributers of the forum is: Do I need to bring my entire tackle arsenal or can narrow down my choices based on time of year and whats lurking in the bay? Is it mostly a live bait time, chunking or lures... or some combo thereof? I know this probally gets brought up often by visitors to the cape and did my best to go back through the many forum threads to find the answer before asking, but nothing that directly addressed my question based on time of year and location.

Thanks in advance for any guidence. Also any secret spots are welcomed
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:25 AM
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Scorton Creek on the drop in tide after dark with swimming plugs or fly flishing is a good bet. Wear waders. Migration is not an issue as the fish live there in cape Cod Bay. You should also be safe from the seals. You will also be close enough to the Canal to fish it as well. You may be even able to walk to the jetty on your side and go out to the end or part way and plug, jig, or crippled herring. You want a Boston low tide but the water there will be flying at that stage. All July is good.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:25 PM
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If you are there the week of Monday the 21 then you don't have a great week in terms of tides. The outgoing tide and dead low will mostly be during the day or at dusk. So Frank's plan might not work out so well. On the 19 and 20 I would definitely check out the canal at dawn and you might have some breaking fish. Dawn = 4:30-7am.
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:51 AM
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AK, I was supposed to check the tide and long term whether forecast for this guy? I had a promise and was in a hurry.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:44 PM
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AK, I was supposed to check the tide and long term whether forecast for this guy? I had a promise and was in a hurry.
That is a classic Frankism

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Hey no one get mad at me I'm just looking out for the guy.

I'll bet there's fish there on the incoming tide. You might want to read Frank's article about penetration since the water will be deeper.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:37 PM
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Koller is referring to the "morning tides" where the large sometimes come up against the current from Cape Cod Bay when Boston low coincides with first light. Be at the east end, Pip's Rip and penetrate the water column with a jig or a CH at least 3 ounces but I like 5.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:38 AM
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Thanks guys. Sounds like mornings for the incoming on the mainland side of the canal around pips. They could be on top, but more than likely i need to put something down deeper. Would the same be said of Scorton Creek?
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:14 AM
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Yes, it so happens that the tail end of the drop is good at both. But I would do Scorton when low accurs in the dark and Pip's when low is at dawn. Also, don't overtrust Mister Smarty on all this. It could be something that you could find out that he does not know. I've been known to make mistakes. For instance our house was full of kids and it was five years before we realized what was causing it.
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I've been known to make mistakes. For instance our house was full of kids and it was five years before we realized what was causing it.
Wasn't it above ground nuclear testing?
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I would bet money that you can find fish at Scorton's on the incoming tide. Plus there won't be anyone there. If anyone would like to take me up on this bet I am free June 20 - September 5.

Fish are more likely to be on top on the canal during slack, which is 2 hours before high or low tide, than they are when the current is running strong. BUT they will always be on the bottom...
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:20 AM
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I think that a person who likes to fish a certain way ought to go do that when he gets to the Cape. For instance, if he likes the bottom put something on the bottom. People have their preferences: I remember my old girl friend, Geraldine Tobasco ..... oh, never mind. Yuz wouldn't understand.
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