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Old 01-27-2006, 08:41 AM
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Default Rigging & fishing techniques for ling, macs & tog please?

Now may I please ask you sharpies what your favorite terminal tackle set up and fishing techniques are. I would prefer to arrive at the boat (Paramount or Dauntless) w/ a few rigs & half a clue about what I am doing. My assumptions are that for ling one would use a typical high-low rig w/ two or three dropper loops. Mackeral - teaser rigs. But for tog I have heard that their is a very special way to use two hooks and I don't think I understand. For these species do keep the rig in contact w/ bottom, or just off of the bottom? Does jigging help? I understand that their is quite an art to actually hooking tog. Lots of question I know. Thanks in advance! [img]http://www.**************.com/ubb547/graemlins/HappyWave.gif[/img]
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:54 AM
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Generally a boat fishing for mackeral will be jigging them and targeting them first. I know some are making some end of day stops to drop clams down for some ling. Easiest rig to use for ling is a basic bottom rig. Basically a leadered snelled hook with a dropper in it that you attach the second leadered hook to. You can also add a dropper in you main line above that for a third leadered hook.


The bottom rig will work for blackfish as well. Attach the rig to a 3way swivel or dropper loop at the bottom of your mono leader. You'll want the bait to lay on/near the bottom.

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Old 01-27-2006, 12:27 PM
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Thanks for the reply Gotog. I was hopping that you would reply. I have read a post of yours about rigging for tog & I didn't quite understand it. That rig that you displayed looks it could be clumsey and as though it would tangel or at least wrap around itself. Is that snell on a snell more effective than a high-low w/ a swivel on top, two dropper loops to attatch hooks to and a snap or loop for a sinker? How long do you tie each snell? What type leader material do you use, i.e., flouro, lb test, etc... Are they heavy-leader shy? What style and size hook do you use for ling and for tog. I thought people used some specialised two hook per crab rig to increase the chance of hooking them. Do they call it a snafu or something? Tog used to torcher me while fishing off of a jetty. They would either steal my bit and I'd miss them or they would grab my bait and dive into the rocks and foul me. I never did get the hang of hooking them. I'm hopping that power pro will help me to figure out what they are doing dowwn there. You say the the bait needs to be laying still on the bottom or structure? Is this true for ling as well? On party boats it's almost always the same. A couple of sharpies get their limit. Most people catch two or three here and there. And some get skuned. I'd love to be closer to the sharpie than the skunk. Thanks for any info you are willing to share. I'd hate to be a total noid chasing the mate around asking him what I should be doing while he is trying to prepair bait, untangle rigs, and net the sparpie's fish. Thanks again Gotog, I know you are one of those sharpies
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:32 PM
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Far from a sharpie, but thanks for the kind words.

For ling and tog you want the bait on the bottom. There are some times and places where you'd adjust the height/length of leader, but go with the default of it being on the bottom.

I tie the snafu rigs for blackfish using 60# and up stiff leader. Don't feel they're line shy at all. The rig I posted my lame pic of is just a standard bottom-fishing rig. I use that style for flounder, ling, whatever.

Basically just a hook sneeled to a leader with a loop at the end to attach to a 3way swivel or dropper loop. Will generally use atleast 30# test for ling/tog. Personally think fluro is a waste and you want to use mono that isn't to "soft" so it won't twist or get kinked easily. When finished with the snell and loop at the end, the leadered hook should be around 10-16" long.

A hi-lo rig will work and you can just add a second hook by making a dropper loop in the bottom leadered hook. That's what the pic shows. Basically a quick way to make a two hook rig.

You can fish two seperate baits or a whole crab with a hook in each side...not a true snafu but it works. I wouldn't worry about using a snafu fig unless you're dedicated to just fish for tog. On an "open" bottom-fishing trip, you sometimes want to maximize your efforts so fishing a clam and a crab bait might be wise.

Ling will readily eat a clam bait, but also will swallow a cut green crab. If everyone is catching ling and no tog, then stick with clams. If tog are coming up, then go to green crabs. If it's a real sticky piece and snags are happening, I'd definetely stick with just green crabs...unless you like Silver Eels and/or Pout, then fish with clams
Ling are fairly dumb, if they're around they'll eat your bait. Blackfish are a little more tricky and generally don't like a moving/bouncing bait.


Tough to point you in the right direction and explain rigs and such online. The boat should have rigs similar to the one I showed. Putting a single leadered hook on a dropper maybe a foot above the bottom rig can help you catch a cod or other fish as well. Can also use the hi-lo rig for that purpose.

For Mackeral, I'd just let the mate rig me up. Maybe bring some jigs to use as the weight...have heard some bass are still around feeding on them so you never know.
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Ling like greencrabs, just ask SnoopyGirl

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Thanks every one. It was quite a beautiful day. I appreciate all of your help! It helped me quite a bit. The would be Paramount turned out to be the Atlantis ???I was a nice day, good company, fair captain and crew, doggies, pouts, and ling.
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Rigging & fishing techniques for ling, macs & tog please?

GOTTOG

Thatis a nice LING and the young lady is also nice.
Your information on the rig is perfect.
I have learned that the people who are looking for that BIG COD are baiting with the big glob of clam and are getting all the Dogfish. A Seabass hook with a small pice of Clam Tongue are best. Less smell than the belly.

I hope it helps.

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Old 02-10-2006, 01:32 PM
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Was a pretty good sized ling and took the pool for the day. SG is definetely a dedicated fisherman. She sticks it out at the rail when many other guys head into the cabin. Love that girl


Ling fishing is usually a no-brainer, but their numbers have dwindled IMHO and now catching a dozen seems like a good day.
The one SG caught coughed up another smaller ling and fell to a green crab.

Sometimes a smaller piece of bait is a good thing, other times big bait means big fish. Just have to experiment at times.
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Default Re: Rigging & fishing techniques for ling, macs & tog please?

nice grip!

ling fishing is not complicated. put some meat on the bottom. if they are there you will catch.
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