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Old 03-08-2017, 07:00 AM
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Common sense and personal responsibility have been dying a slow death, seems that the last 6 months, these conditions are metastasizing and creating a vile, polar society.
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Common sense and personal responsibility have been dying a slow death, seems that the last 6 months, these conditions are metastasizing and creating a vile, polar society.
Geez Frank, unless you've been living in a cave for the last 30 or so years the degradation of what was once a thoughtful, caring, and personally accountable society has been in retreat. The advent of ease of access to information, be it true or false, has allowed the huddled masses (we are in that group) to learn, by example, that one can get away with almost anything if one desires. Time and events have taught us this lesson over and over again.
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Old 03-09-2017, 07:05 AM
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Geez Frank, unless you've been living in a cave for the last 30 or so years the degradation of what was once a thoughtful, caring, and personally accountable society has been in retreat. The advent of ease of access to information, be it true or false, has allowed the huddled masses (we are in that group) to learn, by example, that one can get away with almost anything if one desires. Time and events have taught us this lesson over and over again.

As I said, dying a slow death, it really has been more than 50 years. Entitlements kill personal responsibility.
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I confess to not know anything at all about you, Frank, so here's my first question to try and gain some understanding re: your level of responsibility. Have you opted out of Medicare and/or Social Security?
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Old 03-09-2017, 04:58 PM
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I am a long way off from those programs....I am not counting on them and planning accordingly.
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and my last word on politics: technically SS is not an entitlement since you are supposed to get out what you pay into it. Right?
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My wife and I are both retired. I'm 75, she is 70. We both receive SS bennies. We both receive payments from our respective employer defined programs. We also are required to take RMD from our respective IRAs. We are mortgage free. We have worked long and hard to get where we are today. Our combined income is such that our SS bennies are taxed. I don't know how much $$$ we paid into SS and Medicare over the years.......but we continue to pay as we go.
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Yes, SS is taxed as income, again another argument about it not being listed as
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I agree.....that was the point I was trying to make.
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Yes, SS is taxed as income, again another argument about it not being listed as
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OK, not an entitlement, it's a Ponzi scheme....
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Bob,
Please post items that are factual. He received 5 deferments not 4.
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I've read more than a few biographies on Adams, the most recent John Adams by David McCullough, 2001, Simon & Schuster ISBN 0-684-81363-7.

I believe we must keep in mind that the "Founding Fathers" were "giants" and had giant egos to match. I don't think Hamilton liked anyone except Washington. Adams and Jefferson out and out battled for years but reconciled in latter years. They both died on the exact same day - July 4, 1826

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well, I just picked up McCullough's book, about 100 pages shorter than Hamilton's bio, but will likely take me a while to get through. My reading list is long ...
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