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Old 09-01-2004, 04:55 PM
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BRADS ,,, up to it again



Stripers Forever - the Pew Foundation, in its zeal to create no fishing
zones, has financed a widely circulated study. The report suggests that
individual participation in recreational fishing should be limited to
provide more conservation. We have read the report, and believe that
while some of the catch statistics may be generally accurate, the
conclusions are very misleading. In speaking today with friends at the
American Sportfishing Association, we shared the observation that some of
the overfished species reported on had been first collapsed by commercial
overfishing - then abandoned because the stock was depleted - but remain
unable to recover because so many of the juveniles of that species are
taken as bycatch in net fisheries for other species! The great number of
personal use anglers who fish for these fish may catch a large percentage
of the tiny remaining stock, even though they are greatly constrained by
minuscule bag limits and short seasons. Should they be stopped from
fishing altogether so that a dirty bycatch fishery can continue?
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BRADS ,,, up to it again



Stripers Forever - the Pew Foundation, in its zeal to create no fishing
zones, has financed a widely circulated study. The report suggests that
individual participation in recreational fishing should be limited to
provide more conservation. We have read the report, and believe that
while some of the catch statistics may be generally accurate, the
conclusions are very misleading. In speaking today with friends at the
American Sportfishing Association, we shared the observation that some of
the overfished species reported on had been first collapsed by commercial
overfishing - then abandoned because the stock was depleted - but remain
unable to recover because so many of the juveniles of that species are
taken as bycatch in net fisheries for other species! The great number of
personal use anglers who fish for these fish may catch a large percentage
of the tiny remaining stock, even though they are greatly constrained by
minuscule bag limits and short seasons. Should they be stopped from
fishing altogether so that a dirty bycatch fishery can continue?
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Old 09-02-2004, 11:05 AM
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"dirty bycatch fishery"

Bent & Picker. care to comment on this key phrase?
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Old 09-02-2004, 02:32 PM
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Rat,
I will.If you would look at previous posts about net sizes and such,you would see that is being worked on,and trying to be eliminated.Stripersforever sounds a lot like PETA to me.Say or do anything to promote your position.Talk about "dirty bycatch fisheries" How about the recs that toss robins,dogfish,skates,etc on the beach,just because the are "bycatch" and the want to eliminate them? Sometimes even blues,becuase they are interfering with the striper fishing?Want to call a spade a spade? Many rec fisherman are as bad or worse about what you (and Stripersforever)claim the comms to be.
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Old 09-02-2004, 04:10 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ragman:
Many rec fisherman are as bad or worse about what you (and Stripersforever)claim the comms to be. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What did I clam Raggy? If you read my post I only asked for comments from Bent and Picker.

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Old 09-02-2004, 04:49 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by River Rat:
"dirty bycatch fishery"

Bent & Picker. care to comment on this key phrase? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW BRAD came up with DIRTY BYCATCH FISHERY,,, when were talking about no fishing zones FOR THE RECS.....what do the 2 have in common
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:12 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BENTROD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by River Rat:
"dirty bycatch fishery"

Bent & Picker. care to comment on this key phrase? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW BRAD came up with DIRTY BYCATCH FISHERY,,, when were talking about no fishing zones FOR THE RECS.....what do the 2 have in common <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bent,

PEW is pusing for MPA's or "Marine Protected Areas". No fising for anyone in this scenario. Not just Rec's. Already happened out in California, lucky we dont have as many tree huggers here on the East Coast.

And that's the truth!
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