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Old 09-28-2008, 05:29 PM
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Default First 4w ??

Looking to get a 4w in spring ???
Clearance before airing down,,,,, v6 or v8,,,,any other suggestions

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Old 09-28-2008, 06:10 PM
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Something that has a control to engage 4x4 full time.
4cly,6 or 8 is all relevant to the weight of the vehicle.
Enough cargo area for your equipment.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:48 PM
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Airing down would only drop the clearance an inch or less on a P/U or SUV (remember to think about the lowest part of the vehicle, pumpkin, axles rather than bumper). As Jess said, the ability to shift to real 4WD is important
I run a Cherokee with a 4.0 6 cyl on the beach. Never got stuck. The key to driving the beach is common sense. Think before you do. Speed doesn't make much of a difference, unless you are trying to get off on a place with soft sand and an incline. Feel yourself getting stuck STOP! A big engine will not help you, and can get you buried further. Back up, if needed drop some more air, drop into 4WD low and creep out (see above)
I would avoid AWD for driving on the beach. I think it's designed more for sloppy driving condition on a paved road...
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:40 PM
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I have a Wrangler with a 2.5L 4 cyl. and a five speed and I've never gotten stuck. Never got stuck at stock ride height with LT235 (about 29") tires and I don't get stuck with 4" of lift and 32" tires.

It's all about the technique, although I guess vehicle could have a tiny bit to do with it, as in making it easier to do so. I have, however, gotten my dad's Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L V8 auto tranny stuck. It seems to shift when I don't want it to and then the tires spin.
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I just did and still do what Jess said...never a problem.

15lb and 4Low
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I just did and still do what Jess said...never a problem.

15lb and 4Low

Has Jess ever taken you snipe hunting???
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:39 PM
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I don't think you need 4 low. Try it 4 hi and see. You can always go to low if needed. No reason to put extra strain on the drive train all the time.
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:59 AM
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Greg,
I downsized from a K-5 Chevy (loved her) to a 2001 Xterra (American made in Smyrna Tenn.) gas mileage is much better. I love it drive it on the beach because it's more nimble than the big truck. I always go from 35lb street pressure to 15lb. beach pressure. 1 or 2lbs can make a difference. I agree with Bob D as well, I don't use low unless I need it because if you get stuck in hi4 then you can use lo4 to help in a rough area. If you would like more info check out http://www.njbba.org/. Good Luck.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:07 AM
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Thanks for input , I hear jeep hard on gas, explorer suspect drive train. Should ground ,or sand I should say, be min 7'-8' . i'm thinking 7 -8 years old 4 runner, xterra, landrover, gmc.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:09 AM
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If you are worrying about fuel mileage, a 4WD is not the vehicle for you. They all use fuel to a much greater extent than an economy car. EPA numbers not withstanding, you are not going to get economy no matter what you use.

My first was a 1974 CJ-5 (232 ci 6) followed by a 1978 Blazer (350 ci 4bbl V8) and they got maybe 13-14 mpg downhill with a tailwind. Both were manual transmission vehicles. The 1988 Chevy K2500 automatic diesel did much better on overall fuel mileage. The best, however, is my 2003 F250 six speed manual 7.3 L diesel which has averaged about 18mpg (actually calculated) since I bought it new. The biggest and heaviest of all the vehicles I owned, it gets the best fuel mileage of all of the 4WD's I have owned.

What it really comes down to is that you need to get a vehicle big enough to carry the stuff you want onto the beach. My CJ-5 which I loved (rust bucket that it was) had no room to carry anything and the Blazer although bigger, was similarly limited.

The best I have for bringing family and friends and stuff onto the beach is my F-250. People inside (5) the super cab, and all the stuff I want in the 8 feet long bed.

If buying used, look for manual locking hubs which will allow you to lock out the front axle on the road. It takes a lot of energy to spin the front differential when you don't need it, so the locking hubs will save you fuel dollars. They also will save a lot of wear and tear on the front tires if you keep them disengaged on the hard surfaces.

Ground clearance from the factory is generally more than adequate for the beach (I use IBSP) and stay away from the low rider modifications that are out there. Stick to full size tires and make sure you have your air guage when you go on the beach.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:43 PM
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Good input , I hope when i'm ready theirs still some cash teft in the pot
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I have a Ford Explorer Sport Trac. has anyone used/seen one on the beach? anything I should be wary of? Thanks in advance,
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:34 PM
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The Sport Trac is one vehicle I've never heard anything about. Good or bad.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:43 PM
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I know somebody who has one here and uses it several time a week on the sand.
Works just like a regular Explorer.

Air down to 12-15lbs, watch out for deep ruts and you will do fine.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:24 PM
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Any feedback on how a Honda Pilot handles the sand out at IBSP?
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