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Old 01-10-2007, 09:02 AM
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Is this happening.....


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Old 01-10-2007, 09:18 AM
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You mean islam isn't the religion of peace? Last time someone hinted of that fact it was deleted!
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:49 AM
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Paintball???? They're training an army of terrorists with paintball????? We should have no problem putting down their mighty insurrection, what with the thousands of accountants and tech geeks who play every weekend.

It's a good thing, too; 'cause Dubya done broke our real military.

Islam is no more to blame for the acts of the whacked extremists who act in its name than Christianity is for Hitler.

Which of course leads to the inevitable comparison of this kind of mindless propaganda to the very same crap that led to the extermination of 6 million Jews.

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This is the cover to the most infamous issue of Der Stürmer, the 1934 issue accusing Jews of practicing ritual murder to secure the blood of Christians to use in Jewish religious rituals. The headline reads: Jewish Murder Plan against Gentile Humanity Revealed. The issue actually got banned by the Nazis after it had been out for a while, not because of anti-Semitic content, but because it compared alleged Jewish ritual murder with the Christian sacrament of communion. A full English translation of the issue was published in the United States in 1976 by a group in the "Christian Identity" tradition.
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And Ted Kennedy wants US to negotiate with these people.

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Old 01-10-2007, 08:26 PM
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It's is so pathetic that the only thing someone can focus on is Ted Kennedy. XXX does he have to do with anything?

Nevermind that the there are scores of former GOP White House officials who think the same thing.... If TK is for it, it must be wrong... right?

Nevermind that Bush is now going to directly ignore the best advice of the military brass with his asinine speech tonight. No, let's blame Kennedy and bring him into whatever is rocking your world at the moment.

Sounds like the whackos have finally found the missing WMD, the dreaded holy paintball of Islam. Give me a freeking break.
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Paintball???? They're training an army of terrorists with paintball?????
How do we train people? Think about it Homer, then hit your head against any hard object then yell DOH!

The picture is from a Virtual Combat Simulator, this one at Ft. Bragg, NC.

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Old 01-10-2007, 09:25 PM
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Radical Islam and its millions of followers, both active and passive are a grave threat to the West.

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Which of course leads to the inevitable comparison of this kind of mindless propaganda to the very same crap that led to the extermination of 6 million Jews.
Actually, the murder of 6 million Jews had more to do with the propaganda of men whom declared "Peace in our Time" and proclaimed the Maginot Line to be impenetrable. The lesson drawn is denying a threat leads toward grave and horrible consequences.

True, the majority of Muslims may be peaceful. They are also silent as their religion is hijacked by radicals whom propagate generational hatreds. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. This applies toward Islam today.

It is inherently dangerous to make believe Islamic society is "just like us". They aren't. Hatred filled propaganda fills the Arabic Media and brainwashes entire generations toward hatred and intolerance. Spend some time on Memri and the true scope of the problem becomes readily apparent.

This is what will follow us home from Iraq. We do not have the stomach to pay the necessary price.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:26 PM
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Paintball is an excellent way to foster "battlefield" awareness.

The best pilots in the world are trained on video games. It is no joke.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:31 PM
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So, we've got a domestic Muslim threat becasue they are playing paintball. That's okay, we've got our own domestic militia trained up...



See, I thought we had a terrorist threat because we failed to get OBL, have let Afghanistan and Iraq go to pot providing training grounds for AlQaeda in Anbar and Warzistan, and haven't done an adequate job protecting our chem and nuke plants, domestic transportation netowrk and ports.

The grunts at Ft. Bragg go on to be equipped with the best (usually) live gear Uncle Sam can provide. Where are these Muslim "militias" going to get their gear? For that matter, are we afraid of a handful of paintball-playing militant wannbes forming an actual infantry to launch actions against... uh whomever? Seriously????

Or is this just more Islam-bashing BS?

So, another Screaming Mimi has put together a slick website. Good for them; God knows they haven't done squat to actually defend this country against the true nature of any threat we face. Keep focusing on the divisive nature of people who want to highten the hype... eventually it will be clear just how much our collective eye has been off the ball. Thank God the Dems have finally actually voted to enact the 9/11 Commission's reccomendations... I'll bet that idiot I just watched commit a paltry 20,000 more troops (against the best advice of his military advisors) to securing a single city within an entire nation - in a war we have been told we have already won - will veto it in a heartbeat.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:43 PM
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[quote=CarpenterSteve63]Radical Islam and its millions of followers, both active and passive are a grave threat to the West.

No more than people who buy Bush's crap like he spewed tonight.

Actually, the murder of 6 million Jews had more to do with the propaganda of men whom declared "Peace in our Time" and proclaimed the Maginot Line to be impenetrable. The lesson drawn is denying a threat leads toward grave and horrible consequences.

Perhaps, but what of when one of those threats is that of racist, bigoted propaganda and suggestions that an entire "race" of people is inherently evil? Suggesting the Chamberlains were responsible for Nazi attrocities is as absurd as suggesting all Muslims are responsible for reigning in the radicals. What ever happened to your party's concept of personal responsibility? Seems to have flown out the window a long time ago on any number of topics...

True, the majority of Muslims may be peaceful. They are also silent as their religion is hijacked by radicals whom propagate generational hatreds. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. This applies toward Islam today.

You seem to have missed this post, or didn't feel a need to respond:

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Is this the type of thing you're looking for Steve? Does this meet your criteria?
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Muslim scholars write the pope - and everyone else

By Dan Murphy | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

CAIRO Sohail Nakhooda says Islam has a problem getting its message heard.

Thirty-eight Muslim scholars from 20 countries sent a letter to Pope Benedict XVI urging mutual tolerance and respect over the weekend, and 500 prominent Muslims signed a religious ruling rejecting violence against civilians on Tuesday. Neither got much publicity.

But when Al Qaeda's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri, issues his latest bloodcurdling threat it dominates the airwaves. Mr. Nakhoodas doesn't deny that a problem exists inside Islam, but says that a violent fringe is coming to represent the whole of the religion in Western eyes.

And that, he says, lies at the root of Pope Benedict's critical comments about Islam in September.
"What you see in the media are people like [Osama] bin Laden, or Zarqawi, the sorts of people who don't represent Islam or the religion at large,'' says Nakhooda, the Jordan-based editor in chief of Islamica Magazine, which has been helping to publicize the "unprecedented" open letter by Muslim scholars.

"These individuals are a law unto themselves and, sadly, they get the most publicity.... The intent [of the letter] is to start a dialogue rolling so the public would see there's a positive initiative, an alternative to anger."

Now, this was simply the first search result in a Google search. I guess I blame the liberal media for this not getting much play. It's pretty pathetic when we think a global religion needs to hire a PR firm.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1019/p01s03-wome.htm
It is inherently dangerous to make believe Islamic society is "just like us". They aren't. Hatred filled propaganda fills the Arabic Media and brainwashes entire generations toward hatred and intolerance. Spend some time on Memri and the true scope of the problem becomes readily apparent.

Yes, they are remarkably like us. All you have to do is look at the hate-fill crap many here (on a fishing site!) spew about ALL Muslims to see that we have just as many morons as they.

This is what will follow us home from Iraq. We do not have the stomach to pay the necessary price.

After seeing the chimp in chief speak tonight, I'd have to agree with part 2, with the caveat that the price has been made immesurably higher thanks to the ineptitude of our leadership.
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It's is so pathetic that the only thing someone can focus on is Ted Kennedy. XXX does he have to do with anything?
He's just an easy target and probably the single most reason why your man Kerry lost. Most people outside of Massachusetts do not like Teddy one bit. That's just the way it is. If a candidate wants to really succeed in the National arena they would be wise to avoid associating themselves with Kennedy.

However he has nothing to do with this discussion.

A lot of this is propaganda. I do feel it very urgent that we as a nation should spend a little less time, energy and money minding everyone elses business and primarily concern ourselves with taking care of ourselves here on the homefront.
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Chuck,

Since they are just like us, I will let one Syrian (Or any other Muslim nation in the Middle East) spend a year in the US where each and every day he walks outside with a Syrian flag on his sleeve for everyone to see. (Since most of us don't know the Syrian flag we will print Syria under it). In return, you will spend a year in Syria with an American flag on your sleeve for all to see.

Enough said.

Better check up on MEMRI again. You are way off base on that one.

I'm glad that 500 Muslims spoke out against violence. How many do you think are out there promoting it?

I try and resist stereotyping and grouping together vast groups of people. That being said, violence permeates Middle Eastern Islamic life. Entire generations are TAUGHT that we are infidels.
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I just HATE the bloated s*um bag thats why I focus on him.

Some day I hope to be watching C-Span live while Ted Kennedy is speaking and watch him choke on the salami sandwich he had for lunch then keels over and D**S.

Then they can bury him in a refrigerator card board box.
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I guess Chuck dosen't want to go to Syria with an American Flag on his sleeve.

Can't say that I blame him.....
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Prefer to stay in the reality-based community, rather than dabble in silly hypotheticals and bogus hype.

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