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Hillary Nailed Again on Benghazi Lie in New Hampshire


Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton sat down with the editorial board of New Hampshire's Conway Daily Sun on Tuesday -- and thanks to conservative columnist Tom McLaughlin, it did not go as smoothly as she would have liked. A question Clinton struggled to answer when it was put to her by George Stephanopoulos on December 6 came back to haunt her on Tuesday when McLaughlin asked her about private statements she had made blaming the Benghazi terrorist attack on "an al-Qaeda-like group" while publicly blaming a YouTube video.

She tried to swat away the issue by blaming the "fog of war" and likened the situation to a "40-alarm fire." She also insinuated that the CIA was behind the video narrative even though the acting CIA director claims his CIA intelligence analysts never said the video was a factor.


Sun Columnist Tom McLaughlin said she told an Egyptian diplomat the Benghazi attack was planned and not a protest but that she told family members of the deceased that the attack was the result of a demonstration. He said she then told George Stephanopoulos that she didn't tell the families the attack was a demonstration about a film.

"Somebody is lying," said McLaughlin."Who is it?

Clinton replied, "Not me, that's all I can tell you."

At the time, Clinton said, everyone was emotionally distraught. She said some families didn't know their sons were working for the CIA or were in Benghazi. Clinton said the information she had about the attack was from the intelligence community.


"What happened is people were doing the best they could with information that was changing," said Clinton. "The CIA wrote and approved the talking points that were used. It was also true that from Egypt to Tunisia to Pakistan, the video was the primary spark that was sending people into protesting against our facilities. All of this was happening simultaneously."

Continuing to press, McLaughlin said three family members of the victims said that Clinton told him that the attack was the result of the video and or that the filmmaker should be arrested.

Clinton replied that other family members believe differently and stressed she had sympathy for all involved. "I can't recite for you everything that was in a conversation where people were sobbing, where people were distraught, the president and the vice president, we were all making the rounds talking to people, listening to people," said Clinton. "I was in a very difficult position because we have not yet said two of the four dead were CIA ... This was a part of the fog of war."


It would have been nice if Clinton had been asked which "other family members believe differently" -- because at least four family members say that when she met with them, she aggressively pushed the false YouTube video narrative.

Four different relatives of three separate victims who met with Clinton at Andrews Air Force Base on Sept 14, 2012, have publicly stated that she spoke with them about the video: Patricia Smith (Sean Smith?s mother), Michael Ingmire (Sean Smith?s uncle), Kate Quigley (Glen Doherty?s sister), and Charles Woods (Tyrone Woods? father). The latter kept written notes from the meeting.

Thanks to a recently released email, we now know that on that same day, a State Department official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli in Libya warned colleagues in Washington, D.C., to ?not conflate? the video with ?this well-planned attack by militant extremists.?

Yet that is what Hillary Clinton did -- at least publicly.

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Old 01-04-2016, 08:44 AM
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Democrats Not Confident Hillary Could Beat Trump in a General Election

Some Democrats are losing faith that their presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton can win in a general election fight against Donald Trump, the fierce-tongued GOP front-runner who already has obliterated many of his opponents in his own party.

Early polls indicated Clinton would easily defeat Trump in a November head-to-head matchup, but a more recent Rasmussen poll shows the two in a statistical tie.

According to The Washington Times, some of Clinton's supporters still believe she can best a Trump candidacy, but others fear her past provides too much grist for Trump, who already has gone after her husband, former President Bill Clinton, for his past with women, and has said Hillary Clinton is partially to blame for the creation of the Islamic State (ISIS) because of her time as President Barack Obama's secretary of state.


"We're going to start to have to look at how the [Democratic] candidates play against Donald Trump, because he's certainly holding onto his lead in the Republican Party, and he has certainly played the Republican candidates in a way that has hurt some of his opposition, and I think people are going to start asking, 'All right, who's going to stand up under his type of campaigning?'" David Allen, a Democratic Party leader in Barnstead, New Hampshire, told the Times.

"If Bernie [Sanders] is the candidate, Trump will play up how un-American socialism is, and if Hillary gets it, he will dig up everything in the past 40 years and use it ? and won't mince words in using it," Allen said.

There also isn't a lot of excitement behind Clinton's campaign as there is for Trump's, other Democrats told the Times.

"Hillary is so familiar, she's been around forever," Ron Romine, chairman of the Democratic Party in Spartanburg, South Carolina, told the Times. "She has her supporters, and they?re going to go out and vote for her, so there's not a whole lot to parse out. You either like her or you're not enthusiastic."

Some Clinton supporters think Trump is actually helping her by taking away the media spotlight.

And supporters of Bernie Sanders, her main Democratic foe, aren't overly excited about switching their allegiance if she is the eventual nominee.

"I just don?t trust her," Montgomery County, Iowa, party leader Jason Frerichs, told the Times. "She?s pivoted on too many issues important to me. I?m 38 [and] earn $45,000 a year. How can she understand what my life is like? She's a millionaire. She's a career politician. I just don?t see much excitement for her outside the baby boomers, who think it?s her time."

It's not the first time Clinton has been seen as the party's leader, only to see her White House hopes fade. In 2008, she famously went from front-runner to losing the nomination to an up-and-comer named Barack Obama.

Sanders looks to be less of a threat than Obama was eight years ago, but Clinton is hurting herself with attempts to pander to minorities.

First, there was as post on Clinton's campaign website titled "7 things Hillary Clinton has in common with your abuela (grandmother)." That brought social media backlash of pandering to Hispanics.

Next, she changed her Twitter avatar from its red, white and blue "H" to a red, black, and green altering of the "H" to look like kinara, the candle holder used at Kwanzaa.

Again, social media reacted negatively.

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Old 01-04-2016, 06:37 PM
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bottom line is she lies and will say anything to gain votes; now over 1300 emails with classified info; she says not when she sent them but I say she was the Sec of State and was in a better position than anyone to know what might have been classified; she will lie about anything and everything to suit her; maybe it was a response to a video
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....really don't think it matters .Most people will vote not who they like but who they hate . Poor John McCain took Sarah Palin as VP & it done him in !
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here is a thought; won't happen due to the personalities but what if Hilary named Bill her VP choice; she won't because he would upstage her but what a idea
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she will name whomever she thinks will give her a victory.

I don't even think Bill is going to be living in the whitehouse if she wins.
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she will name whomever she thinks will give her a victory.

I don't even think Bill is going to be living in the whitehouse if she wins.
BEST thing for the site when she wins...it keeps the Mudhole flowing .
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:13 PM
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Public school recruits students to work for Hillary Clinton campaign

A public high school in Maine was caught red-handed trying to recruit students to work on Hillary Clinton?s presidential campaign as a ?community service opportunity? ? without the knowledge or consent of parents.

Could you imagine the national media firestorm had the school been recruiting for Donald Trump?s campaign?

Students at Marshwood High School in South Berwick received an email from the Clinton campaign ? urging them to sign up for positions as unpaid ?fellows?.
?Hillary for New Hampshire is looking for smart, energetic winter fellows who are committed to winning the New Hampshire primary for Hillary Clinton,? read the email from a campaign staffer. ?Everyone working on the campaign now started off as a fellow at some point so it is a great way of getting a different skill set whilst helping an important cause.?

Tim and Elita Galvin were furious that their teenage son had received the solicitation ? calling it ?disingenuous and sneaky.?

?My son didn?t appreciate being targeted by anybody via his school email for a political campaign,? Mrs. Galvin told me. ?I?ll be honest ? he?s not a fan of Hillary Clinton to begin with. He?s done his homework and he doesn?t like her.?

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BEST thing for the site when she wins...it keeps the Mudhole flowing .
be careful what you wish for.

you or I could be on her hit list and be Vince Fostered.
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today poll shows Sanders within 2-3 point of Hilary in Iowa
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Could Bill Clinton possibly " serving his country " by helping Hillary get elected.
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Bernie Sanders Is Right: Hillary Clinton Is in ?Serious Trouble?

Leading in New Hampshire and gaining in Iowa, the socialist candidate poses a real threat to Clinton?s campaign.

by Tina Nguyen,

The aura of inevitability surrounding Hillary Clinton is suddenly looking more fragile. As Democrats prepare for the Iowa and New Hampshire primaries, opponent Bernie Sanders is giving the front-runner a run for her money in both states, raising the possibility that Clinton could face another 2008-style defeat if she doesn't act fast to solidify her support on the left.


Speaking with reporters on Monday, Sanders touted his competitive poll numbers against the Clinton machine: not only does a new poll place Sanders within three points of Clinton in Iowa, the self-described democratic socialist Vermont senator is actually winning by a slim margin in several New Hampshire polls. A new Monmouth poll released on Tuesday puts Sanders a whopping 14 points ahead in the Granite State. At this point, Clinton?s best New Hampshire strategy might be to simply make it a close race.

?Secretary Clinton and her campaign is in serious trouble,? Sanders said, adding that she was no longer the ?anointed? one. ?So obviously in that scenario what people do is start attacking. Suddenly Bernie Sanders is not a nice guy. That is not surprising when you have a Clinton campaign that is now in trouble and now understands that they can lose.?

Given Clinton?s recent activity, Sanders might be right: perhaps looking to stave off an embarrassing repeat of 2008, when she surprisingly lost Iowa by a wide margin to a first-term senator with a weird name, Clinton has racked up several prominent gun-control endorsements in the past few days from the Brady Campaign and former Arizona congresswoman Gabby Giffords, highlighting Sanders?s alleged weakness on the issue. Clinton has also stepped up her attacks against Sanders on the campaign trail, pointing out in stump speeches that the Vermont senator has voted several times for pro-gun legislation?notably a 2005 bill that protected gun manufactures from criminal action when their firearms are used in crimes. (In the press release announcing their endorsement, Brady Campaign president Dan Gross called the bill ?truly evil.?)

But Sanders still has the advantage on income inequality, a central concern of his campaign and an issue that Clinton has struggled to talk about as fluently. It doesn?t help that Clinton only revealed her plan to tax the mega-rich this week, and from a solely populist standpoint, it certainly won?t help that her tax increases aren?t as drastic as Sanders?s proposal.

Clinton might not be able to count on help from the White House on this one, either. In a recent interview with CNN, Vice President Joe Biden observed that it?s ?relatively new? for Clinton to talk about Sanders?s pet issue: ?Hillary?s focus has been other things up to now, and that's been Bernie's?no one questions Bernie's authenticity on those issues.?

Still, there are 20 days until Iowa, enough time for any and all scandals to strategically tank a campaign. Major banks have collapsed in less time.

_Update (2:45 P.M.)__: A new Quinnipiac poll released on Tuesday afternoon shows that Sanders is out-polling Clinton by 5 points in Iowa. This is a good time to imagine what Hillary Clinton keeps in her Panic Room.


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the pundits are all saying how the new polls are good news for Sanders; the truth is it's bad news for Hilary; Sanders has no chance in a general election; it would be McGovern-like; the story is how weak and beatable Hilary is and you know the Democrat big-wigs are all wondering what to do if she continues to spiral down
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London Bridge is falling down... Bill 12:12 am go to bed !
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Trump - Sanders in the general.

How great would it be?
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