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Old 08-17-2015, 11:37 AM
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True, Palin turned out to the be the worst possible choice. Although it got the nut jobs all worked up, the regular voters were turned off. Never vetted properly.

And indeed, I've said it all along, unless Hillary is convicted and *IN PRISON*, the dems (and many independents) will vote for her, if she's on the ballot.

People are that stupid (including the GOP insiders)
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Old 08-17-2015, 04:19 PM
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I can actually see her doing a Nixon... getting elected then convicted in office
and either resigning or taking up residence in prison:

(edit: it would be an AWESOME ending to the Clinton saga... perhaps they would finally go away.
perhaps, but then again Chelsea, the daughter from a different father, might decide she wants
some fun dipping into politics....
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Clinton's shaky email defenses: Column

Campaign proves she doesn't lie by citing fact-checkers who point to clever deceptions.




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After Hillary Clinton provided her much-discussed private server to the proper authorities last week, her campaign sent out an email blast to supporters and posted on its website a fascinating briefing to bring all the “facts” about the email "nonsense" together. Yet, the links the briefing provided to clear Clinton’s good name are a bit curious.
If you follow them, you'll find that when Clinton is given every benefit of the doubt, she is innocent of specific deliberate falsehoods. At the same time, the links indict her for a campaign of deliberately misleading statements, dating to a news conference in March. Consider some of the key questions, and the answers provided by the fact-checking websites cited by the Clinton campaign (emphasis added in boldface italics):
Was using a private email account allowed?
"Yes,” the campaign said, citing a PolitiFact post. Here's what Politifact found:
  • “We interviewed several experts on government transparency and records preservation. While Clinton might be able to put together a case that she 'complied' with the rules, experts said her actions are nevertheless hard to defend.”
  • “It seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business. Rather, by using personal emails exclusively, she skirted the rules governing federal records management."
  • “(Former Justice Department official Daniel) Metcalfe pointed to Clinton’s use of the word ‘allowed’ and ‘opted’ throughout her press conference, when referring to her decision to use private email. He said both words give the false impression that the law and its proper implementation presented her with a choice. She might have been ‘allowed’ to use only a private email account in that no one stopped her, Metcalfe said, but that’s not the same thing as lawfully complying with rules.”
What about the allegation that Clinton used multiple secret email addresses?
Clarifying the “honest misunderstanding” surrounding the issue, the Clinton campaign cited a FactCheck.org post. Said FactCheck:
  • “This doesn’t prove, of course, that Clinton did not have more than one @clintonemail.com address while secretary of State. All four experts told us the only way to know for sure how many @clintonemail.com accounts Clinton had while in office is to conduct a forensic examination of her mail server.”
Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?
"No,” the campaign claimed.Technically true, said a FactCheck.org post, if Clinton meant by “I’ve never had a subpoena” that the emails were deleted before she received the subpoena.
The FactCheck post continued:
  • “We asked the Clinton campaign what she meant when she said that she 'didn’t have to turn over anything' to the State Department. ... Clinton should have preserved the emails before she left office. The State Department policy on preserving emails dates to 1995 after the National Archives and Records Administration issued government-wide regulations on emails. … In 2009, NARA specifically addressed the issue of emails ‘created or received outside of official electronic systems maintained’ by the federal government, according to Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle and a former director of litigation at the National Archives.”
  • “Clinton has taken the position that she complied with department policy because ‘the vast majority of my work emails went to government employees at their government addresses, which meant they were captured and preserved immediately on the system at the State Department.’ Baron, in his letter to the Judiciary Committee, disagreed. He said it is an ‘erroneous assumption that emails ‘sent to or received from a .gov address are being automatically preserved somewhere in a federal agency.’ He said, ‘Very few federal agencies have implemented an automated system for archiving email.’ ”
  • “In her (July 7 CNN) interview, Clinton also said that ‘previous secretaries of State have said they did the same thing.’ … Although (Colin) Powell did acknowledge that he used personal email for official business, there’s no evidence that he — or any other previous secretary of State — maintained emails on a personal server.”
  • “She later said, ‘I had one device. When I mailed anybody in the government, it would go into the government system.’ She did not have one device for sending emails. She had two — a BlackBerry and an iPad — according to the Clinton emails released so far by the State Department.”
A second link, this time from PolitiFact, explained that “the timeline generally supports Clinton’s contention. ... She deleted emails in fall 2014 after she was asked to turn over email related to Benghazi. The official subpoena didn’t come until March 2015,” but…
  • “Clinton’s choice of words is still somewhat misleading, especially to people who haven’t followed the controversy. ‘I’ve never had a subpoena’ implies that up to the day of the (Jul 7 CNN) interview, she has not received a subpoena related to her emails, which is incorrect. Additionally, in the months when she was sifting through these emails, there was a pending formal request — though not an official subpoena — for the emails. So she knew at the time that the State Department and the Benghazi Committee wanted to look at them.
The fact that the Clinton campaign has been forced to cite websites that conclude the candidate did everything to mislead, confuse and otherwise obscure the truth, short of outright falsehoods, suggests there's more to this story than a lot of nonsense.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:01 PM
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I’m a Hillary Clinton fan. But I hope she bows out with grace


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http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...o-much-baggage


duh, yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:23 PM
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What a tool

SURPRISE! Jorge Ramos’s daughter works for Hillary campaign

August 26, 2015 By Kyle Olson


Jorge Ramos, the amnesty activist moonlighting as a Univision and Fusion journalist, revealed in June that his daughter is an employee of the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Credit: Instagram/Jorge Ramos

In a statement on the Fusion website, Ramos wrote:
As journalists the most important thing we have is our credibility and integrity. We maintain that, in part, through transparency with our audience, our colleagues and our critics. That is why I am disclosing that my daughter, Paola, has accepted a position working with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
As a father, I am very proud that she has decided to actively participate in our democratic process. I hope that more young people get involved, regardless of political parties or ideological preferences. Our democracy and our future depend on that.
I completely support and respect Paola’s decision. In our family we have always cherished tolerance, dialogue and active participation in what you believe.
Like many reporters who have parents, siblings or other family members that are active in politics, this will not change how I approach my duty as a journalist. I will continue to report with complete independence and ask the tough questions, the same way I have done for the last 30 years.
Ramos was temporarily removed from a press conference being held by Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump in Iowa yesterday
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would you expect anything else from Washington ?
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Audits found State Department cybersecurity deteriorated under Clinton

WASHINGTON ? The State Department was among the worst agencies in the federal government at protecting its computer networks while Hillary Clinton was secretary from 2009 to 2013, a situation that continued to deteriorate as John Kerry took office and Russian hackers breached the department's email system, according to independent audits and interviews.

The State Department's compliance with federal cybersecurity standards was below average when Clinton took over but grew worse in each year of her tenure, according to an annual report card compiled by the White House based on audits by agency watchdogs. Network security continued to slip after Kerry replaced Clinton in February 2013, and remains substandard, according to the State Department inspector general.

In each year from 2011 to 2014, the State Department's poor cybersecurity was identified by the inspector general as a "significant deficiency" that put the department's information at risk. The latest assessment is due to be published in a few weeks.

Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, has been criticized for her use of a private email server for official business while she was secretary of state. The FBI is investigating whether her home server was breached by hackers.

State Department officials don't dispute the compliance shortcomings identified in years of internal audits, but argue that the audits paint a distorted picture of their cybersecurity, which they depict as solid and improving. They strongly disagree with the White House ranking that puts them behind most other government agencies. Senior department officials in charge of cybersecurity would speak only on condition of anonymity.

"We have a strong cybersecurity program, successfully defeating almost 100 percent of the 4 billion attempted intrusions we experience each year," spokesman Mark Toner said.


Two successive inspectors general haven't seen it that way. In December 2013, IG Steve Linick issued a "management alert" warning top State Department officials that their repeated failure to correct cybersecurity holes was putting the department's data at risk.

Based on audits by Linick and his predecessor, Harold Geisel, State scored a 42 out of 100 on the federal government's latest cybersecurity report card, earning far lower marks than the Office of Personnel Management, which suffered a devastating breach last year. State Department officials complain the grades are subjective.

In late 2014, cyberintruders linked to Russia were able to break into the State Department's email system, infecting it so thoroughly that it had to be cut off from the Internet in March while experts worked to eliminate the infestation.

Clinton approved significant increases in the State Department' information technology budgets while she was secretary, but senior State Department officials say she did not spend much time on the department's cyber vulnerabilities. Her emails show she was aware of State's technological shortcomings, but was focused more on diplomacy.

Clinton's campaign staff did not respond to repeated and detailed requests for comment.

Emails released by the State Department from her private server show Clinton and her top aides viewed the department's information technology systems as substandard and worked to avoid them.

"State's technology is so antiquated that NO ONE uses a State-issued laptop and even high officials routinely end up using their home email accounts to be able to get their work done quickly and effectively," top Clinton aide Ann-Marie Slaughter wrote in an email to Clinton on June 3, 2011.

Under Clinton and Kerry, the State Department's networks were a ripe target for foreign intelligence services, current and former government officials say, echoing the situation at OPM, which last year saw sensitive personnel data on 21 million people stolen by hackers linked to China.

The Russian hackers who broke into State's email system also infiltrated networks at the Defense Department and the White House, officials say, and no clear line can be drawn between their success and State's dismal security record.

But as with OPM, State's inspector general identified many of the same basic cybersecurity shortcomings year after year, and the department failed to correct them, records show.

State Department officials say that only email was taken in the hack, and that no sensitive databases were breached. The National Security Agency conducted a classified assessment and deemed the breach significant and severe, two officials say.

Those officials, and many others interviewed for this story, declined to be quoted because they were not authorized to address the matter publicly.

Although the hacked email system was unclassified, State Department personnel regularly use it communicate very sensitive information. It would be valuable intelligence for a foreign adversary, officials say.

State Department officials responsible for cybersecurity acknowledged that the department had gotten behind in its compliance with standards in the Federal Information Security Management Act, known as FISMA, which requires, for example, that agency systems be certified as secure. Many of the State Department systems had not been certified for many years. Officials say they have made great strides in the last year.

"FISMA is very important, but it is process-oriented, and compliance is judged on meeting the process," not whether data is actually protected, Toner said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015.../?intcmp=hpbt1
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:30 AM
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no wonder why the R's are in trouble...that investigating committee was kindergarten. thought the whole idea & spending over 220 million taxpayer $$$ was to defuse her
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no wonder why the R's are in trouble...that investigating committee was kindergarten. thought the whole idea & spending over 220 million taxpayer $$$ was to defuse her
Just made Our Gal stronger,

What dat happen ?
yup, all reports around here states she came out of it on the plus side. Now its time for Republicans to go thru 11 hours of tape. But my opinion is the investigating committee, like you mentioned, were just so out to get her, that they just tripped all over the place like a drunk 5th grader.
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After that hearing her biggest single fund raising day ever !
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Problem with the tea party gang us that they are political idiots. They don't and won't think long term and are just thinking in absolutes... like absolutely wanting to rid the Party of RINOs. And in this case think that just going after the antichrist was enough. They forget that her minions are energized by that behavior.

All they had to do was lay out facts and then move on. And work the backdoor machine.

Scary part is it seems she has pulled everyone in line behind her, if the pres calls off the fbi wolves then the election is over.

So sadly it seems it's up to BO to decide between Hil or amtrak Joe. Meaning does he Hate Hil enough to give the GOP an actual shot at the presidency
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Speaking from this blunder compared from other blunders by this government (decades past ) the trail can be exposed more easier , than a tape recording.
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Hillary heard its possible Bob could vote for her.
that pic makes me uncomfortable.......in a republican sort of way....
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What does she have to say now..

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Clinton says America should 'empathize' with its enemies

Hillary Clinton is taking heat for saying America should ?empathize? and show ?respect? for its enemies.

The former secretary of State, who is considered a likely 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, made the remarks during a speech Wednesday at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

Touting an approach she calls "smart power," Clinton urged America to use ?every possible tool and partner? to advance peace.

This, she said, includes "leaving no one on the sidelines, showing respect even for one's enemies, trying to understand and insofar as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view."

At a time when the U.S. military is launching airstrikes against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, some called the comments out of place.

Former Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North, a Fox News host, said the comments are "irrational."

"I can't think of a presidential candidate who would have said those kinds of things," he said. "Think about December 7, 1941 and then FDR going to the Congress of the United States the next day saying, "We need to have more empathy for Japan."

North added: "If you?re going to run for president of the United States, you cannot talk that way about the people who intend to kill us. Who are dying to kill us. " This is capitulation."

Karl Rove, former George W. Bush adviser and Fox News analyst, called Clinton's remarks the "wrong language."

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