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Old 12-27-2017, 07:53 AM
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Vince the barber and my father in law who lived around the block were both from the same area of Italy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabria).

My wife's (way extended) family had South Philly "connections". There are some true stories about some of the folks they knew, but the movies didn't quite get it right.

To them, it was "just business"
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My whole teaching career was in a Providence suburb. I had the sons and daughters of all the mobsters in the local mob families; they were the best kids. Visitor days the Moms came to school -- long eyelashes, bright lipstick, cleavages, very high heels, flashy Moms.
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I never ran into those Italian types... mostly the kitchen type Italian moms, great cooks, but not much for "fashion". Then again, I was never around the actual mob families. My wife, however, has a taste for bling and makeup
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There is a lot of cultural bluster associated with Italians that Hollywood movies did surprisingly well. My experience teaching a lifetime in an Italian town is that Hollywood was amazingly accurate in their depiction of the culture. On one hand there was the violent no BS side; on the other there was/is a loyalty, even a humor. For instance, I was commonly asked, "what is black and blue and floats?" (a Frenchman that tells too many Italian jokes.)

I often meet my old students in taverns, restaurants, even hunting and fishing. They hug me and treat me with warmth. Ruggiero, Cavalaro to name only some, going back over 40 years.
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Mr D in my neighborhood growing up there was a saying that we all lived by “ put your nose where it don’t belong , you lose your face “
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Chuck, your post reminds me how little I know of that world. I was a shitkicker who had to adjust to the city. We are all different.
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Your 100% correct , learning is at different levels . Some easy... some the hard way .
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I was raised in Bayonne and when I told people that it was possible there was some truth to the 'Sopranos' they looked at me as though I was crazy. It is not comprehensible to most people.
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Good point, Martin. These varied backgrounds point out how we are all the products of diverse environments. I love to study and observe the way people confront change in their worlds. For instance, on the Cape I marveled at how New Yorkers feared the dark on the beach. They distrusted the Cape wilds the same way I am spooked by city environments. I won't walk past an alley but feel comfortable in a wild, snake infested swamp. We become the product of our familiar settings. The challenge for each of us is to be flexible enough to adapt.
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Saw the movie "Jersey Boys" yesterday on the development of the group Four Seasons/ Frankie Valley. Very Jersey, very Italian and very emotional for my wife and I because their music was during our time.
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Saw the play in Philly a few years ago, can see how it would strike a chord for those who grew up with that music.

Being almost 2 decades behind, it was interesting but not as "moving" per se.
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Seeing the movie we both had tears. We danced to that stuff in the 50s. Incidently, we still dance in the kitchen usually after cocktails and dinner using the CD player. I worked as an apprentice with Gene Pitney in East Hartford before his first golden record "Ferry Across the Mercy", "Town without Pitty" We have all his hits on CD.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...ichi-1.4494195

New study shows up to 18 per cent of young salmon get eaten by striped bass

Jan 19, 2018 5:00 AM AT
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I was wondering when we would get back to stripers and salmon.
The stripers that are up there in the maritimes have probably been there for a long time. Maybe something else is going on to cause a mini population explosion.
I get crazy when I hear people blaming things like this on global warming. Too easy.
The water temperature at about 50 feet in Newfoundland is about the same as the water at that depth in New Jersey. I don't think they migrated there.
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There is a lot of digression on this site. It has to be hard for members to follow because I too find it hard.

The notion of stripers eating smolt salmon is the whole thrust of this thread. When your whole life is salmon, like it is with us on stripers, it is horrifying for meratimes salmon anglers. A related issue is whether it is true that the stripers are actually doing that.
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