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Old 06-28-2014, 11:31 AM
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Default Saving Striped Bass Fishing Try This

This letter was written with one intension is to reduce the mortality rate of the striped bas along the entire coast.It . Also want to make it equal for all fisherman to enjoy the fishery.So It would be GREAT that you get this letter off to the person at the top of the page be it be E Mail or the postal service.IT MUST BE IN BY JULY 18.So if you want to try and help.Please get it in and get as many other people that are involved in bass fishing to send it in also..Please lets not make this a big discussion thread..If you happen not to like the letter write your own version and send that to the same person at the ASMFC . Thanks MAY BE THIS WILL. Help ???

This letter was created by the Coalition For Recreational Fisherman.



Date.......

Michael Waine
Fishery Management Plan Coordinator
1050 North Highland Street
Suite 200 A-N
Arlington, Va 22201
Email: mwaine@asmfc.org

Dear Michael Waine,

The Coalition For Recreational Fishing is writing this letter to offer comments regarding proposed option changes and striped bass management.

To say that the Coalition is disappointed in a lack of action from ASMFC and its recent approach to striped bass management is an understatement. Our disappointment is fueled by several significant factors. First, Amendment 6 (2003) states that when a trigger or triggers are exceeded action MUST be taken in one year. However, although triggers were exceeded, no action has been taken. Instead, there has been a seemingly endless array of motions that are clearly designed to delay action, alter amendment 6, and obstruct the proper management of the species. These delays run contrary to the ASMFC amendment rules and are potentially even more damaging to the striped bass population as it also struggles against poor recruitment since 2000, Mycobacteriosis disease, and intense fishing pressure on existing year classes. This failure to take action is an outrage. The failure to act is illogical, is a travesty, and recreational fishers up and down the coast demand ASMFC action now!

Second, it appears to the world outside of the ASMFC that a well thought out plan for management has been hi-jacked by representatives from the states for purposes of their own greed and the greed of their associates. We demand to know why officials in charge of ASMFC have allowed state representatives to delay action and attempt to misappropriate the plan and amendment 6 that is intended to protect and preserve the striped bass. Did we not learn a painful lesson from the 1980s when delays in action almost brought the species to endangered status?

Third, the ASMFC board has hidden behind a smoke screen of demands for precise statistics, studies of option effects, more studies to study studies, and the possible outcomes of ?new? ideas that would permit the increased harvest of male fish purported to be in ?excess,? and the exploitation of the 2011 Chesapeake year class before, God forbid, it ?escapes? from the estuary and enters the coastal migration where all users might enjoy the resource. Have we conveniently forgotten that MANY MALES must attend a single female in order to properly fertilize her eggs? As far the 2011 YOY, why should Chesapeake fishermen be allowed a ?privileged? harvest and effect future migrations thus depriving coastal anglers of equal opportunity? Every recreational angler knows, albeit in the absence of precise data, that the Atlantic Coast population of striped bass has declined and is declining rather rapidly. All one needs do is go fishing regularly for striped bass and compare recent results with their results from the 1990s in order to appreciate that reality. Also, although much attention is paid to the Chesapeake stock since it is the largest ask any Long Island angler and they?ll tell you that the Hudson stock is in even worse shape. In the western Long Island Sound anglers are dependent on the Hudson stock for their overall success. To make matters worse in the Hudson, the highly publicized 2007 Hudson year class has not turned out to be the predicted bonanza. There are some fish caught from this year class, but they are few and far between whether one fishes in Little-Neck Bay, Mid-Sound off Eaton?s Neck, or along the Connecticut shore.

Fourth, when we blow away the smog and fog of misdirected studies and debates, the REAL reason for all the delaying tactics is the desire of some people to make MONEY from the killing of striped bass. We ask why ASMFC officials continue to move ahead at a snail?s pace in light of the extreme effects a declining population of striped bass has on the millions of non-dollar motivated anglers? Non-dollar motivated anglers sole interests lie in engaging in a sporting interaction with striped bass, a concern for the food species they need, and healthy ecosystems to support vibrant populations of marine life. Of course in the process, striped bass sportsmen contribute millions of dollars to coastal and local economies. These local and regional businesses include small family-run operations that have been harshly and extremely affected both by a poor economy nationwide and a decline in the striped bass population. Somehow, this portion of the economy doesn?t receive the same emphasis by ASMFC board members as does the demands from those who make money from striped bass. Yet, all studies have shown there is a straight-line connection between the size of the striped bass population and how much money sportsmen spend on their recreation. The Coalition does not represent people who wish to get rich at the expense of the striped bass population. Those who exploit the population are only interested in how many fish they can kill instead of how healthy the population is or the quality of the angling experience of non-dollar motivated fishers. There is an enigma in this and it is short sighted because all interest groups benefit most when stocks are at the highest levels. It is shocking in this era of supposed ?enlightened? fisheries management to bear witness to the reality that the erroneous time-honored approach in fisheries of the ?prisoner?s dilemma? is still alive and well when most thought it dead decades ago.
More disappointment.
So, with not a single dollar bill of motivation, here is what the Coalition supports and demands. Yes, demands, because the time for tomfoolery and delays has past and the needs of the species MUST NOW COME FIRST!

1. We demand immediate action: One year and not 3.
2. We demand a 31% reduction in mortality in one year. Since any plan only has a 50% chance of success, delays will only reduce the odds of success, since more and more fish will have perished.
3. We support a 1 fish at 32? per angler per day-regardless of where, how, and when the fish is caught. We demand this regulation be applied to all venues including party boats and charter boats. Making $$ on the fish does not justify providing these harvesters with an advantage. This provision has been a thorn in the sides of the majority of independent recreational fishers and it?s time to end this unfair and scientifically unsound practice. Likewise, 1 fish at 32? should be the standard in the estuary as well. The notion that only small fish are caught in the estuary is nonsense. All places have their seasons and that?s why anglers invest great effort in the estuaries around spawning time. Yet, be it Chesapeake Bay, the Hudson River, or the Connecticut River, it is true that fewer big fish are taken during off-spawning times, but they are caught. Stripers migrate from place to place and each area has its bigger fish season, all anglers in all regions should abide by the same regulations.
4. Minimize the dragger by-catch. Either directed or truly accidental.
5. Take immediate steps to end the severe poaching of small fish in the inner cities of Baltimore, Philadelphia, Boston, and New York.
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:23 PM
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I agree with everything except #3. I have no objection to 1 fish per angler per day, as I have not caught more than one keeper in a day in years. However, at 32", I would not have caught had a single striper from the surf for the table in about 3 seasons.

There really needs to be different regs for surf vs boat. And if nothing is changed for commercial harvesters, no other changes are not going to do very much, IMHO.
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Old 06-28-2014, 02:35 PM
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As I stated you can write your own letter with whatever suggestions you feel is necessary as long as it's intensions are for conservation of the resource.I know some may not agree with size/slot limits but you can NEVER satisfy everyone, someone will always be disagree.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:04 PM
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Only 15 days left to be heard on the preservation of striped bass ,Don't let this opportunity pass without being heard. If you choose not to send this letter or one with your opinion on how to help the bass don't go around complaining why the fishing is horrible.Be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:21 AM
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I read this update on Colin Archer's blog:

08.07.04 From the ASMFC's meeting two days ago.....

Basically "we" all want a 25% reduction in one year, the lobbyists and politicians and the money will put the pressure on a three year plan......lets see who's running the asylum at the ASMFC





ASMFC Atlantic Striped Bass Board Approves Draft Addendum IV for Public Comment



Alexandria, VA ? The Commission?s Atlantic Striped Bass Management Board approved Draft Addendum IV for Public Comment to Amendment 6 to the Interstate Fishery Management Plan for Atlantic Striped Bass. The Draft Addendum proposes new fishing mortality (F) reference points, as recommended by the 2013 benchmark stock assessment, and associated management measures to reduce F to a level at or below the proposed target within one or three years.

The Draft Addendum responds to results of the 2013 Atlantic striped bass benchmark assessment indicating F in 2012 was above the proposed F target, and female spawning stock biomass (SSB) has been steadily declining below the target since 2006. This means even though the stock is not overfished and overfishing is not occurring, SSB is approaching its overfished threshold and stock projections show SSB will likely fall below the threshold in the coming years. In addition, a similar decline has been observed in total harvest.


In response to these factors, the Draft Addendum proposes management options to reduce fishing mortality to the target level. The Draft Addendum includes a suite of management options to reduce recreational and commercial harvest along the coast and in the Chesapeake Bay under three reduction timeframes. The timeframes include (1) reducing F to its target in one year with a 25% reduction in 2013 harvest in 2015 (2) reducing F to its target within three years with a 17% reduction in 2013 harvest in 2015, and (3) reducing F to its target within three years with a 7% sequential reduction in harvest for three consecutive years starting in 2015. Specific options to be considered include bag, size, slot and trophy size limits for the recreational fishery and quota reductions for the commercial fishery.
Given the Albemarle Sound/Roanoke River (A/R) stock of striped bass contributes minimally to the
coastwide complex when compared to the Chesapeake Bay, Delaware, and Hudson stocks, Draft Addendum IV proposes it be managed by the State of North Carolina using stock-specific biological reference points. These stock-specific reference points, which have been approved by the Board, would result in a separate quota that is set to maintain F for the A/R stock at its target level. The Board tasked the Technical Committee with the continued development of Chesapeake Bay-specific reference points for future use.


It is anticipated the majority of Atlantic coastal states will conduct public hearings on the Draft Addendum; a subsequent press release will announce the details of those hearings once they become finalized. Fishermen and other interested groups are encouraged to provide input on the Draft Addendum either by attending state public hearings or providing written comment. The Draft Addendum will be available on the Commission website (www.asmfc.org) under Public Input the week of August 11th. Public comment will be accepted until 5:00 PM (EST) on September 30, 2014 and should be forwarded to Mike Waine, Fishery Management Plan Coordinator, 1050 N. Highland St, Suite A-N, Arlington, VA 22201; 703.842.0741 (FAX) or at mwaine@asmfc.org (Subject line: Draft Addendum IV). For more information, please contact Mike Waine, at mwaine@asmfc.org or 703.842.0740
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:50 PM
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I say.....CPR; catch, photo and release. Also do what many states in the SE do; keepers are a slot. Stripers can be kept one fish 24-34 inches. Thats it. I know people say the commercial guys are the problem and while that may be true, in life you can only do what you can do. One fish; slot size; photo and release the rest. But I am just a lowly beach fisherman so what do I know
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