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Old 01-27-2006, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Al Bentsen: Your Googan Days?

Similarly, I once asked a guy to gaff a big fish of mine in Chatham Inlet and he went in and started hitting it with the gaff but couldn't impale it -- the rubber cover was still on the gaff!
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Fish tank we were both fishing rigged eels from the start of the trip. I just had to fish it high and fast from slow and deep. If wasn't what I was using, it was how I was using it.

Read my last post again I may not have been clear.
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Old 01-28-2006, 10:55 AM
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Al's powerful point that it is not just about lure choice but how it is fished brings a lot to mind. Years ago, when we first discovered how great the Rebel was as a plug, we had guys who chose sinker Rebels because they cast better. We had guys who fished beside us with wire leaders or snaps big enough to breed with a brook trout. All those things caused them, and they were your uncles by the way, to get zilch in a rip that was teeming with bass.
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Another googan thing I can think of occured in the mid-60 s. It was actually 2 of us togeather that pulled this off. My friend Charlie and I were doing are usual hunt and catch routine. "Simple fish every point on the back beaches of the area casting rigged eels". We would make 5 or 6 casts than move to the next point if we didn't get a hit.

The thing that made this work is one of us would fish with a light blue eel the other with a dark fresh one. " Many times the fish would hit one or the other" not both colors on the same night during a full moon. We didn't talk much so we each thought the other was fishing the light eel. I found out we were both casting dark eels after the 2nd mile. I switched to light blue and hit a cow on the first cast.

Our good friend Scotty was in the jeep behind us that night hitting bass on each stop we had made. He was using a Light blue eel of course.

Scotty just reminded me of that night when I meet him last summer.
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Frank or Al,
I know one of you mentioned why the eels change color from dark to blue,but I cant remember why. Think had something to do with the amont of time it was out of the water?
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Ragman you make them blue by rubbing the dark color off with wet sand on the beach or plain soapless steel wool. You do this to the older eels because they are half way there from use and hits.
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Thanks Al!
Guess I was halfway right.Knew it was something like that.Now to branch off,does the dark/blue work for rigged eels also?They are already dead,so does the rubbing make them blue,and they stay that way,or do the go back to being dark after awhile?
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This is only done on dead rigged eels. What you are doing is rubbibg all the color from the outside of the eels skin. It does not grow or come back or anything. Live eels are a another item. You don't do it to live eels. It would be a battle and he would probably die quicker. You don't want that to happen.. The longer you can keep the eel alive the better. In fact if I fish a live eel on the bottom" on a fish finder rig " I hook them in the tail which does little or no damage to eel. They live longer than a head hooked eel live eel.
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Another googan thing I can think of occured in the mid-60 s. It was actually 2 of us togeather that pulled this off. My friend Charlie and I were doing are usual hunt and catch routine. "Simple fish every point on the back beaches of the area casting RIGGED EELS. We would make 5 or 6 casts than move to the next point if we didn't get a hit.

The thing that made this work is one of us would fish with a light blue eel the other with a dark fresh one. " Many times the fish would hit one or the other" not both colors on the same night during a full moon. We didn't talk much so we each thought the other was fishing the light eel. I found out we were both casting dark eels after the 2nd mile. I switched to light blue and hit a cow on the first cast.

Our good friend Scotty was in the jeep behind us that night hitting bass on each stop we had made. He was using a Light blue eel of course.
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:22 AM
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All good information and just to ad -- when you use an eel skin on a plug we often option the color by turning the skin inside out because it is black when presented the way it is grown and blue when turned inside out. Off the subject, my friend Ray Jobin (Squid Beaumont) had an albino eel one time -- all white.
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Another googan thing I did was to test the ability of rigged eels' hooking bass
on spinning tackle. I always said that the stretch of the mono and and the softer tip of the spinning rod would be a detriment hooking up with a large bass. Now was the time to prove it. I always used a with a stiff conventional rod and a no stretch dacron .

We were catching fish every night on the stone pile. I was fishing with a friend " Max ". He of course was using conventional tackle.

Even though the fish were hitting a short distance from where I stood. I couldn't sink a hook. The googan thing. I didn,t bring my conventional outfit along to switch to in case this happened. So I got 8 hits and no fish to to my friends 4 hits and 4 nice bass. I helped him carry his fish off the jetty.

Today that wouldn't happen because of the stetchless new lines being used.

And today I always have a 2nd rod in the truck.
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Great story, Al. My wife, Joyce, had a similar experience. When she saw how well I was doing with rigged eels on conventional, she wanted the same chance. So I had Tony C wind her a stiffer spinner for driving those big Siwash hooks and she fished her Penn 704 with the drag down tight. After she hooked the bass, she would back off real quick so that it would not break her 20# line. She only once failed to back off in time and POW. Also, her second best striper was taken on a riggie -- a 49 pounder. But she always was on an edge fishing riggies with a spinner.
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Hey you new guys, read about our Al in this thread.
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Just finished. Good read lots of subtle tips that may be helpful in the future.
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The neatest thing about this forum is reading about people you'll never meet, but feel you know. When i started playing guitar, i would study every ounce if information books had on Jimi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia, Jeff Beck, etc...... never met any of them but feel i know them anyway. Fishing is the same way, i've read tons of stuff on Frank, Al Bentsen, Charlie Soares, Dennis Zambrotta,etc........ and now the newer guys like Zeno Hromin,Steve McKenna, Mike Evrin, so may others......... but today, the internet makes it so easy ...... theres nothing like reading the words, or better yet, hearing first hand stories from some of the ealry birds of this great sport.......
To be honest, i'll take the chair next to the 70 year old with the rubber waders and rigged eel before i try to talk to someone in a wetsuit with a $800 reel and $35 plug. No disrepect intended at all, i just find that i feel more in common with the old guard because i'm poor and have to make do with simple gear and simple techniques and can't keep up with the big horsees i guess ! :O)

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