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Old 11-14-2017, 12:42 PM
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The barrier island is a phenomenon that extends up into Long Island (on the South Shore)
Pretty much all of NJ is comprised of barrier islands, with bays or ponds that open to the ocean from time to time.

I do think fishing a barrier island (given the shifting sands and changing bars) requires a bit of a tailored approach. Then you have the man made inlets Montauk is very different as is Block Iskand

I’ve long thought that fishing say the back bay of a barrier island is a discussion unto itself, as is fishing rock reefs of Montauk or Block
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:38 PM
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Yes, my wife and I fish Narragansett Bay exclusively as we have gotten away from the open beach. The Bay is close, good fishing and quieter. Of course we don't sell fish any more and with no commercial license catch and release for a one fish limit, the whole picture for us is different. Back bay fishing is like a big lake. Money fishing ruins you.
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:01 AM
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Yes, my wife and I fish Narragansett Bay exclusively as we have gotten away from the open beach. The Bay is close, good fishing and quieter. Of course we don't sell fish any more and with no commercial license catch and release for a one fish limit, the whole picture for us is different. Back bay fishing is like a big lake. Money fishing ruins you.
I've had a couple of years where the fishing was good enough that I spent huge portions in the bay. It's quite fun to watch the bay and it's inhabitants change as the season evolves
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Old 11-16-2017, 01:56 PM
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During our formative years, 1960 to 1985, everybody sold fish on the Cape while few sold fish in RI. I was intimate with both the Cape and RI and saw first hand how things were. Surfcasters in RI didn't even know how to sell fish, but we -- Smarty, Butch and Norman -- learned how and where to sell fish right quick. I did, however, teach Norman and Butch how to ship to Fulton Street. I wish more of our members had read "Eastern Tides" for a comprehensive explanation of the selling fish exploits.
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Old 11-20-2017, 12:19 PM
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Selling bass was not an option for me though I suspect I probably would have.
I sold blue claw crabs I’d get in my large home made traps and I sold bait fish like spearing. That money just went into better fishing tackle and misc stuff as a teenager
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:44 PM
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If you sell something that someone else wants, is that a bad thing? I buy cod that was frozen at sea (FAS). If I kill a striper for the table I get dirty looks from other anglers and cleaning it gets my hands dirty. We also buy oysters, scallops, and calamari. I am grateful to be able to purchase what I cannot catch or willing to kill.
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If you sell something that someone else wants, is that a bad thing? I buy cod that was frozen at sea (FAS). If I kill a striper for the table I get dirty looks from other anglers and cleaning it gets my hands dirty. We also buy oysters, scallops, and calamari. I am grateful to be able to purchase what I cannot catch or willing to kill.
Over the years I?ve had commercials practically set a net around me or totally ruin a decent decent bite that had gone on for days. The mentality seemed like they felt they were more entitled to those fish because they were making a living at it. But by the same token they wanted to play the struggling man poverty card when the argument turned to how much money the sports spent versus what they?d get at the market for those fish.

I don?t kill many striped bass because I?m not crazy about the taste. I?d rather smoke bluefish or keep flounder or better yet tuna, Mako Sword, Monk. I also dig clams. All in all I probably eat local seafood 3x a week. I also buy, but I prefer to buy what just came in.

The whole rev v comm gets more complicated when I have consider some commmecials are really just Recs who are semi retired and would like to take more than their daily allowance to pay their expenses. And the door to the commercial fishery closed behind them.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:19 PM
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John, there are (p)ricks in every group. Read "Men's Lives" where commercials make a set around a bunch of sport fishermen on the beach and the sport fishermen help themselves to all the bass they want. I have had a school of fish breaking against the beach and a charter boat drove through them to put them down so their sports could troll for them because the sports on the charter did not have casting equip. If you fish or hunt enough, sooner or later you are going to get it in the ash.
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