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Old 12-19-2017, 06:51 AM
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eek Brigantine North End Changes

Well, the state is taking back the North End and will now require a permit and sounds like it will be managed similar to IBSP (however that's working out).

Wonder if we'll get 16" flounder for the summer up there!!

(I'm not worried about the headline below... the only real bad news in my mind is whatever extra fee the state imposes)

https://brigantinenow.com/major-rest...es-brigantine/

Major Fishing Restrictions Planned for Northend Beaches of Brigantine



Besides the bugs and plover-closures, I can't imagine the "restrictions" are going to be much worse than what's up there now.
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You think the tree huggers or state's greed is behind this?
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Old 12-19-2017, 07:10 AM
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Not sure, but sounds like it's a money grab. The word is that unlike the Brigantine permit, which is a 4x4 permit, it will be a "sportfishing" permit... if that's the case, I can't imaging the tree huggers wanted it necessarily. Perhaps the plover-huggers felt the state could keep more locals away from their precious 1 or 2 eggs a year with more control.
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Not sure, but sounds like it's a money grab. The word is that unlike the Brigantine permit, which is a 4x4 permit, it will be a "sportfishing" permit... if that's the case, I can't imaging the tree huggers wanted it necessarily. Perhaps the plover-huggers felt the state could keep more locals away from their precious 1 or 2 eggs a year with more control.
...it seems throughout the North East coast the powers to be want folks to Golf not fish ,
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:55 PM
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Definitely a power grab. Be interesting to see how it works in conjunction with the regular Brigantine pass. Brig controls the 1st 1500 ft until you get to the state area.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:59 AM
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Dang birds!

DEP OFFERS NEW MOBILE SPORT FISHING PERMIT AT NORTH BRIGANTINE NATURAL AREA IN ATLANTIC COUNTY, WITH TIMING RESTRICTIONS
LIMITED ACCESS WILL HELP PROTECT ENDANGERED SHOREBIRDS
(17/P124) TRENTON – Mobile Sport Fishing permit offerings will be expanded for the 2018 season to include the North Brigantine Natural Area, allowing visitors the same vehicle and user guidelines as those offered at Island Beach State Park and Corson’s Inlet State Park, the Department of Environmental Protection announced today.
The Mobile Sport Fishing Permit is valid only for recreation related to fishing, and will be the only valid permit for public vehicle use in the North Brigantine Natural Area. The closest public access to the natural area is at East Beach Avenue and 14th Street North in Brigantine. While the City of Brigantine offers its own permit, which was previously valid in the Natural Area, in 2018 the city’s 4-wheel drive beach permits will no longer be applicable to the Natural Area.
Permits for the 2018 calendar year will be available for purchase beginning Friday, December 29, and will cost $50 for New Jersey residents and $75 for non-residents. Visitors may call Bass River State Forest at (609) 296-1114 for purchasing information.
“In a February 2017 meeting, DEP notified Brigantine City that starting in 2018, the city’s 4-wheel drive beach permits will no longer be valid in the state-owned Natural Area,” said Rich Boornazian, Assistant Commissioner for Natural and Historic Resources. “We value our continued partnership with the City of Brigantine and thank them for their efforts related to North Brigantine Natural Area. It is DEP’s responsibility to protect valuable ecological resources while allowing recreational uses of the area.”
To help minimize environmental impact to the area, DEP will sell a limited number of permits and allow a maximum 75 vehicles access to the natural area’s beach within each 24-hour period, for fishing only. In addition, vehicle access will be prohibited in all or a portion of the Natural Area due to endangered shorebirds from May 15 (or when the first plover nest hatches, whichever comes first) to September 15. The affected areas will reopen in time for the fall fishing season.
DEP restricts access to the natural area for all motorized recreation during a portion of the breeding season for endangered bird species such as piping plover, and during stopover periods for the red knot. Pedestrian access is open year round for birdwatching, strolling the shoreline, and fishing.
“For the past several seasons North Brigantine Natural Area has consistently been a productive nesting site for endangered shorebirds,” said Mark Texel, Division of Parks and Forestry Director. “Its remote wildness, beauty, and most importantly its utility as a nesting habitat for our native breeding beach nesters makes North Brigantine Natural Area a treasure of our New Jersey coastline.”
A public information meeting is planned in February to announce management strategies for the North Brigantine Natural Area. The meeting date and location will be posted on the Division of Parks and Forestry’s website at www.njparksandforests.org.
The North Brigantine Natural Area features an unmanicured natural beach and an adjacent unmodified inlet, a habitat preferred by many beach nesting birds. These birds lay eggs directly on the sand and brave predators, wind, rain and tides, as well as human disturbance, to raise their young.
The federally listed animal and plant species found at the North Brigantine Natural Area include piping plover, red knot and seabeach amaranth. State imperiled species include least tern and seabeach sandwort. DEP protects these species under the Federal Endangered Species Act, state Natural Areas and Natural Areas System acts, state Endangered and Nongame Species Conservation Act and state Endangered Plant Species List Act.
Together with the adjacent federal sites of Holgate and Little Beach, which are two parts of the expansive Edwin B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge, the combined area is the longest stretch of undeveloped barrier island beach along the New Jersey coast, totaling 9.75 miles.
The Natural Area System was created in 1961 and the North Brigantine Natural Area was added to the system in 1967 as a conservation preserve with a management objective of “preservation of salt marsh habitat, coastal dune, and rare species habitat.” Use of the area is limited to the oceanfront.
To learn about beach nesting birds in New Jersey, visit: www.nj.gov/dep/fgw/ensp/beachnester_info.htm and www.nj.gov/dep/fgw/ensp/redknot.htm
For more about Bass River State Forest, visit: www.nj.gov/dep/parksandforests/parks/bass.html
North Brigantine Natural Area is administered by Bass River State Forest, 762 Stage Road, Tuckerton NJ 08087. For more information, call (609) 296-1114.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:14 AM
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I really hope the NJBBA is on this (how could they not be).

And, of course, RINO LoBiondo is no where to be seen, he's worried about Trump.

Oh wait. That, and money.
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Money Money Money Money!!!!!!!!!!:d :d
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NJBBA is on it. I don't think it is about money. I think it is about control. They should have asked for public opinion before they came up with this, not after. There are several aspects of this that I do not agree with. Paramount is a fixed calendar date for piping plover closure. No coincidence that the NJBBA annual meeting is in Brigantine this year. Feb 11.
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great to hear Bob. I don't hold out much hope, but perhaps there can be some changes. I don't mind that the normal all-wheel-drive crowd will be kept out, but yes, fixed closures makes no sense at all.
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That press release is different from what I was told 3 weeks ago. Most of that stuff wasn't mentioned. I'm hoping they added it in so as to take it away later and look like they are responsive. I'm going to take a fact finding ride down there the weekend after Christmas. Probably start at Andy's.
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Go get em Capt.
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So far everyone I spoke to at DEP claims they didn't read that press release.
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They can say they didn't read the press release, but I'd still like to hear from them what, in fact, they are proposing to implement... in writing.

Until, the writing changes, I'm thinking the worse.
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